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Posted by Derek Cornish
Dec 14, 2007 at 05:44 PM
Pierre -
That’s very neat! I’ ll email you screenshots of how GV does it, using my post to Steve in another thread as an example.
Derek
Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Dec 15, 2007 at 08:49 PM
Derek Cornish wrote:
>Pierre -
>
>That’s very neat! I’ ll email you screenshots of how GV does it, using my post
>to Steve in another thread as an example.
I’ve given some thought to this and the initial approach was cumbersome. A much better one, similar to how GrandView was, is to include the document as a regular item right under the heading. F6 (or some other key—F5 is already used) will toggle display of the document. Editing of the document will be identical to heading, making it much more fluid.
Columns could be shown in headings to show such information as number of words, last modification date of the section, etc. Using the hierarchy calculations (column math) will total this all the way up to the main heading
Columns would be suppressed for document items, to make maximum use of the screen.
If 2 headings are merged, so would the associated documents.
Expect a new demo in a few days
Pierre, http://www.sqlnotes.net
p.s. Thanks for the screenshots!
Posted by Gorski
Dec 16, 2007 at 02:42 AM
If anyone’s interested in trying out Grandview, here’s how to do it on Windows XP with the version you can download at http://vetusware.com/download/Symantec%20Grandview%202.0/?id=3631, as mentioned previously on this thread.
That zip file has three strange files in it called gv printer.IMA, gv program.IMA and gv utilitie.IMA
The files are image files. You can extract them with WinImage, found at http://www.winimage.com/download.htm. I used version 6.1 based on something I read while Googling. Don’t know if it would work with a later version. It’s shareware, so you can use it this one time without actually buying WinImage.
I extracted all the files into a single directory. Then I opened up a DOS command window and ran install.exe from that directory. I chose to install it into a directory on the C: drive, although it gives you the option of installing it elsewhere. The installer complains about not finding some sample files that aren’t included with the download, but you can skip those. I also skipped the printer installation, since I don’t happen to have any 15-year-old printers lying around.
You need to run the program from within the DOS command window by navigating to the install directory. If you just try to click on the shortcut for the program or by clicking on GV.EXE from within Windows it will complain about an invalid start directory and instruct you to check your pif file.
More than 15 years after first reading someone rave about Grandview, I finally got to see it for myself. It truly must be Christmas. I didn’t play with it too long, but everything seemed to work, and I even exported a few test outlines to a text file, which worked fine. I do like the way you can show and hide full documents in the outline with just a keystroke. Why are such simple, obvious and useful features so rarely emulated?
Posted by GeorgeB
Dec 16, 2007 at 04:15 AM
I followed your directions and got GV working on my computer. Thank you for the instructions. So, this the the fantastic GrandView that I’ve read about for so long. I’ll play with it when I can.
I do some simple work with pocketthinker on my hp4705 and I’m sorry to hear that the doors will close on this fine example of ppc software. I downloaded the PC version with the intention of buying it before 1/1/08. GeorgeB-)
Posted by Derek Cornish
Dec 16, 2007 at 05:37 AM
Look forward to seeing it.
Derek