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Posted by Cyganet
Mar 5, 2024 at 06:59 PM
The developer has made a related program called TreeTag: https://treetag.bellz.org/. This one groups items in the tree based on their field values. It also has an Android app, which sadly TreeLine does not.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Mar 6, 2024 at 07:59 AM
Treeline reminds me (or vice versa) of one of the great Mac apps which unfortunately has never received the coverage it deserves: Noteship (by Rico Gundermann). The name is, perhaps, not the most inspiring, but the app itself is a jewel of minimal-footprint, data-oriented note-taking, with clever use of tags and fields (like the revered but long-defunct askSam, fields can be included in notes arbitrarily).
Well worth a look – still available on the Mac App Store. Rico needs encouragement, however – take-up has been very poor, probably because of a lack of marketing muscle.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Mar 6, 2024 at 04:58 PM
I was a frustrated askSam user… Loved the idea, but could never get it to do what I needed it to do. Noteship does look like a nice app. It is a shame that it hasn’t garnered more attention and users. I wouldn’t be able to use it because of its Mac-only status.
MadaboutDana wrote:
Treeline reminds me (or vice versa) of one of the great Mac apps which
>unfortunately has never received the coverage it deserves: Noteship (by
>Rico Gundermann). The name is, perhaps, not the most inspiring, but the
>app itself is a jewel of minimal-footprint, data-oriented note-taking,
>with clever use of tags and fields (like the revered but long-defunct
>askSam, fields can be included in notes arbitrarily).
>
>Well worth a look – still available on the Mac App Store.
>Rico needs encouragement, however – take-up has been very
>poor, probably because of a lack of marketing muscle.
Posted by Maurice Parker
Mar 6, 2024 at 07:48 PM
I like the idea of adding structured data to outline rows. Other examples of apps doing this are OmniOutliner and SheetPlanner where they display this data as columns.
A long term goal I have for Zavala is to have structured data associated with rows that is user definable. The biggest problem I’m facing is how to make it usable on small screen devices like iPads and iPhones. I don’t much care for the column layout you see in other outliners. I have some ideas, but nothing that I feel good enough about to implement yet.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Mar 7, 2024 at 09:19 AM
You’re not wrong – outliners and columns are a tricky one. A long-lost app called, I think, ListPro, originally developed for Windows Mobile (or SE or whatever Microsoft last decided to call it) used multiple fields, but allowed you to “switch them off” at will on a mobile, and included one large notes pane (ultimately supporting rich text) at the bottom of the screen for stuff you really wanted to remember/highlight. You could use the fields (even the ones you’d “switched off”) to sort or group the list items, which was a neat feature. So the mobile view was essentially vertical (although it switched to horizontal columns on a desktop), with the navigation outline on the left (as usual). It was a clever app!
Maurice Parker wrote:
I like the idea of adding structured data to outline rows. Other
>examples of apps doing this are OmniOutliner and SheetPlanner where they
>display this data as columns.
>
>A long term goal I have for Zavala is to have structured data associated
>with rows that is user definable. The biggest problem I’m facing is how
>to make it usable on small screen devices like iPads and iPhones. I
>don’t much care for the column layout you see in other outliners. I have
>some ideas, but nothing that I feel good enough about to implement yet.