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Posted by Cassius
Dec 9, 2007 at 09:01 PM
I know nothing about MACs, (except that Apple’s LISA didn’t last long, but did parent MAC)
With respect to Windows, The steps from DOS to XP and then VISTA did lose some worthwhile software. GrandView still worked on Win 3.1 (which was really DOS with a GUI overlay), pretty well on Win 98, usable on Win 2000, less usable on Win XP and ??? on VISTA. I note that Symantec has never upgraded it to the Windows environment and now has not upgraded GoBack to VISTA.
Some developers (Surfulater) claim that updating their programs to VISTA is easy. Some (Jot+) claim that it is hellish.
Windows registry IS HELLISH.
-c
Posted by David Dunham
Dec 9, 2007 at 09:53 PM
Stephen R. Diamond wrote:
>>This is not true. Apple came out with a compatibility toolbox so developers could
>>develop OS X applications that would also ran in OS 9, and several companies used it
>>(but no, it did not become popular)
>Could you name one company that used it - preferably the company with the
>most successful product.
I’d have to imagine Microsoft. Word and Excel are fairly successful—you might have heard of them.
(FWIW, you can use the Carbon toolbox to write Mac applications that run only on Mac OS X. You can also create applications that ran on Mac OS 9 and X—I worked on Print Explosion, which was such a product.)
Posted by Matty
Dec 10, 2007 at 03:53 AM
Stephen thanks for your description of how Maxthink works. That makes some sense to me. I’ll have to give it another look when I get some time.
and yes, Brainstorm has implemented a binsort function.
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>
>I found that the key to becoming comfortable with the
>writing pane is to think about what it’s there for. Not a really obvious question. It
>doesn’t function as a pane in the 2-pane sense. You just input data there. So what’s the
>point? Why input data at a point other than your outline. That’s the question that I
>think confuses people, as it confused me. My operation of the program became smoother
>when I articulated the narrow purpose of the writing panel.
>
>The writing panel
>allows you to see entire note entry you are working on, while having outline itself
>show only one line of each note. Why not expand only the note being worked on, while
>allowing editing in the main pane? Then the note you are working on might take the bulk
>of the space, and you couldn’t see the structure of the outline while working on the
>note.
>
>I haven’t seen the new Brainstorm, but if I understand what you describe,
>Brainstorm seems to have implemented a version of binsort. That’s quite important.
Posted by Stephen R. Diamond
Dec 13, 2007 at 10:11 PM
So the MS programs were written in Cocoa? Or is it Carbon? (Can never keep them straight.) They look the low road to conversion?
David Dunham wrote:
>Stephen R. Diamond wrote:
>
>>>This is not true. Apple came out with a compatibility
>toolbox so developers could
>>>develop OS X applications that would also ran in OS 9,
>and several companies used it
>>>(but no, it did not become popular)
>
>>Could you name
>one company that used it - preferably the company with the
>>most successful product.
>
>
>I’d have to imagine Microsoft. Word and Excel are fairly successful—you might
>have heard of them.
>
>(FWIW, you can use the Carbon toolbox to write Mac applications
>that run only on Mac OS X. You can also create applications that ran on Mac OS 9 and X—I
>worked on Print Explosion, which was such a product.)
Posted by David Dunham
Dec 13, 2007 at 10:40 PM
Stephen R. Diamond wrote:
>So the MS programs were written in Cocoa? Or is it Carbon? (Can never keep them
>straight.) They look the low road to conversion?
If by “low road” you mean “let’s not rewrite everything.” Microsoft uses Carbon. As do the huge majority of cross-platform applications.