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What is Tinderbox? Interesting summary
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Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jan 19, 2015 at 02:56 PM
(Thanks for the nice comments, Hugh.)
That evaluation of Tinderbox is interesting and helpful. I have a completely different point of view (and that’s the operable wording… it’s just MY point of view).
While Eastgate pushes Tinderbox as the “tool for notes,” It has a really powerful outliner. AND it has the most flexible and versatile white board in its Map View. Combined, these tools are for me unbeatable for thinking and planning.
Here is an amalgam of two screen captures show both the same information in Map view and Outline view (this was done in version 6):
I don’t know any other application that provides two such powerful views of your information.
As a note-taker, I think Tinderbox is excellent for specific instances. What I mean by this is that if you are taking notes in a meeting or a workshop or a class, it is outstanding. But I don’t believe Tinderbox is a good choice for storing ALL your notes, and that is because Tbx works best when you make a new document for every project, and there’s no interconnectivity between documents. Also, Tbx is about your own input. It isn’t made for doing a lot of clipping from the web or other digital sources. So Tbx isn’t a replacement for an app like Evernote or Devonthink. I think if you get it thinking you can put all your notes into one document, you’ll be overwhelmed… not to mention that I’m not convinced huge files work well in Tbx.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on this amazing app.
Steve Z.
Posted by Hugh
Jan 19, 2015 at 06:09 PM
Yes, less a tool for notes, more a tool for thoughts. (Although I can see why Eastgate don’t use a strapline like this: it sounds pompous and overblown, but in reality it isn’t.)
Posted by Prion
Jan 20, 2015 at 06:44 AM
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>As a note-taker, I think Tinderbox is excellent for specific instances.
>What I mean by this is that if you are taking notes in a meeting or a
>workshop or a class, it is outstanding. But I don’t believe Tinderbox is
>a good choice for storing ALL your notes, and that is because Tbx works
>best when you make a new document for every project, and there’s no
>interconnectivity between documents. Also, Tbx is about your own input.
>It isn’t made for doing a lot of clipping from the web or other digital
>sources. So Tbx isn’t a replacement for an app like Evernote or
>Devonthink. I think if you get it thinking you can put all your notes
>into one document, you’ll be overwhelmed… not to mention that I’m not
>convinced huge files work well in Tbx.
These are my thoughts exactly about the strengths and weaknesses of Tbx, well put. Weaknesses might be the wrong word but Tinderbox just like any program does not work particularly well when being asked to do the wrong thing. The few largish Tbx files that I keep are rather sluggish but I keep adding to them because the topic does not lend itself to being split into several subtopics with one smaller Tbx file each.
The question remains: What *IS* the best home for all the notes then if the programs with excellent metadata and visualization capabilities do not scale well and those that do are rather poor in terms of making use of metadata?
This never-ending quest seems to keep an entire software industry alive.
Prion
Posted by Hugh
Jan 20, 2015 at 09:29 AM
Prion wrote:
What *IS* the best home for all the notes then if
>the programs with excellent metadata and visualization capabilities do
>not scale well and those that do are rather poor in terms of making use
>of metadata?
>This never-ending quest seems to keep an entire software industry alive.
>Prion
Posted by Hugh
Jan 20, 2015 at 09:39 AM
>Prion wrote:
>
> What *IS* the best home for all the notes then if
>the programs with excellent metadata and visualization capabilities do
>not scale well and those that do are rather poor in terms of making use
>of metadata?
>This never-ending quest seems to keep an entire software industry
>alive.
>Prion
That is an interesting question - and unanswerable in terms of a single application, I imagine - I am absolutely not an expert on these matters - at current levels of personal-computing power. The - relatively unsatisfactory - answer, I suspect, is to harness two applications together with hyperlinks, one application to store data and the other application to manipulate limited selections of items, their metadata and visualisation - for example, DevonThink and Tinderbox. But that’s just my untutored guess.