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*praying* to find a good Clarisworks clone for Windows
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Posted by jaslar
Jan 2, 2015 at 04:42 AM
More info on outlining in OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice.
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2008/03/an-equivalent-o.html
I tried that for awhile. With a big monitor, you can open the Navigator window at all times, compose in the main Writer window, and do the structural editing in the Navigator pane. It’s painful, but possible.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Jan 2, 2015 at 12:34 PM
Welcome to the forum. If anyone can help you, it’s this group.
If I may, it seems like your requirements boil down to this: Ability to create outlines in a single pane with the look and feel of a word processor, and which can import ClarisWorks files.
Have you considered OneNote. Yes, it has a lot of bells and whistles (as well as meat and potatoes), but you don’t have to use them. It handles outlining reasonably well. I don’t know how the import of ClarisWorks files would work. You’d have to give it a try.
I wrote a short review of OneNote as an outliner on my blog, which might be of help. One caveat, the review was of ON 2010, not the newest version. Find it here:
https://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2012/07/19/announcing-the-onenote-smack-down/
Good luck.
Steve Z.
Posted by 22111
Jan 3, 2015 at 05:45 PM
Welcome to Sharewood! Brings traffic at least, if it’s not good for anything else. This being said:
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I also think you should try to identify if there is a real connection with your security software, or if it is anything else; did you reinstall the Clary thing, after de-activating the virus sw?
One more 1-pane try would be NoteMap (costs 150 bucks, trial is free), but “Clarywhatever windows export” does not bring results that would inspire any hope, it seems.
Please have a look into your handbook / help file, and verify which export means are available.
Variant: Is it possible to transfer from Clary Win to Clary Mac, and to get some better export from there then? (Sub-variant: within the possibilities of your old Mac and your old Mac Clary version?)
Try that (2-pane) Dutch outline sw, too: Where any other outline sw fails with importing, that one is your last hope. (I’m too tired to look it up, but Sharewood knows em all.)
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Create a new Clary file, with no personal content, and just some lines of headings (“indentations”), and with text, the wordings describing what it is (”“: 0 level, heading 1, sub-heading 1, text under sub-heading 3, you get it). Do some formatting wirthin that, again describing that: Replicate what in reality appears in your files (photos? oh my!), but then publish it here, together with its complete header and all (from opening it within an editor).
That would help in determining if there is a chance to get the result into something else, by replacing possible internal codes by codes that could be read on import, for the different outline levels.
Do similar for any available export format (rtf, html, other?); html would be easiest if available.
Since you get hundreds / thousands of such files, it would be worthwile to set up an export script, for one doing the necessary codings within a useful export format, and then, of course, for treating all those files in bulk.
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Last resort: Is it possible to export the structure (i.e. what in 2-pane would have been the tree) only? Alternatively, this could perhaps be done by another script; I suppose that there, indentation levels are with 1, 2, 3… tabs or something similar. And then, a script could run all night(s) long, with ^c and ^v doing the principal work; I transferred a 6-digit items’ figure this way from UltraRecall to ActionOutline this way, over many nights (slow pc, and clipboard operations ain’t that robust if you try to speed them up and think you get away without automatic checks).
Clarification: Some outliners could import from html, as a flat list at the very least, and then the aforementioned indentation codes could possibly be retranslated into the indentation codes needed by the target program.
Clarification needed: Must it be 1-pane again (and if so, why?), or could it be 2-pane now? (Anyway, some 2-pane sw could serve as intermediate between 1-pane, and then 1-pane again.)
Posted by Paul Korm
Jan 3, 2015 at 07:43 PM
That’s inappropriate—I believe this forum isn’t a place for trolling. I enjoy Stephen Z’s blog and have learned many useful things over the years, including his post above.
22111 wrote
>Welcome to Sharewood! Brings traffic at least, if it’s not good for anything else.
Posted by tightbeam
Jan 3, 2015 at 08:35 PM
If you ignore him and his convoluted posts, he tends to go away.
Paul Korm wrote:
That’s inappropriate—I believe this forum isn’t a place for trolling.
> I enjoy Stephen Z’s blog and have learned many useful things over the
>years, including his post above.
>
>22111 wrote
>>Welcome to Sharewood! Brings traffic at least, if it’s not good
>for anything else.