TuskTools Treeliner

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Posted by Daly de Gagne
Dec 29, 2014 at 11:22 PM

Has anyone recently tried TuskTools Treeliner?

I trialed it in the summer, and after many attempts found it was incapable of syncing with Evernote - which defeated the whole purpose. I wrote the developer and got some instructions which did not remedy the situation.

Somewhat hesitantly I contact the developer again but have heard nothing. I am hoping in the last six months maybe the problem has been solved as the program is developed.

I had what I thought was a free trial download for Right Notes earlier this month and that I could try its Evernote sync but it did not allow that. I emailed the developer and have heard nothing.

Anyone, any thogughts?

Thanks.

Daly

Posted by dan7000
Dec 30, 2014 at 12:35 AM

I have tried to sign up for the Treeliner beta a number of times over the past year or more and have never gotten a response. I’m glad to hear at least somebody got to try it. It looks totally stalled as the website does not appear to have been updated in a long time.

I have successfully synced RightNote with Evernote and in fact used Rightnote pretty regularly for 3 months or so last spring. But I found the whole workflow to be too cumbersome—my Evernote is a massive collection of notes in many categories and what I want in an outline format, it turns out, is a lot more limited and a lot more refined than the information dump that I keep in Evernote. The experiment led me to realize that I really do need two separate information stores: one information dump and one for structuring a refined outline of my key ideas / information on a topic. So I switched to a system with workflowy and Evernote, using hyperlinks in the workfowy outline to link to evernote notes when appropriate. That system worked greaf for me and was a lot less cumbersome than doing a massive sync of stuff into Rightnote and then sorting through it to try to create an outline of Evernote notes.

[I am still using the Workflowy/EN thing but due to security concerns am trying out alternatives for both products.]

Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 30, 2014 at 12:19 PM

dan7000 wrote:
>The experiment led me to
>realize that I really do need two separate information stores: one
>information dump and one for structuring a refined outline of my key
>ideas / information on a topic. So I switched to a system with
>workflowy and Evernote, using hyperlinks in the workfowy outline to link
>to evernote notes when appropriate.

I’ve come to a very similar realisation and implemented a similar system and workflow (keeping data of differing importance in different databases and then using inter-application links to create connections between them), except I use three databases in three different software, both to distinguish between data of different importance (or state of being processed) and because those software are better for storing and handling data in particular formats (e.g. EndNote for bibliographic references).

Also, I use more than one outliner to extract and organise data via such links to the databases because I find that multiple outlines allow for more opportunities to develop concepts (through alternative visualisations, alternative trains of thought, comparison and contrast, reflection and refraction etc.).

But the underlying principle is the same: collecting (dumping) data is not the same as organising, analysing and evaluating data, and not all data are equally important. Too much unprocessed data can impede on clarity (not seeing the forest from the trees…). Deciding about which database to put the collected data in is in itself an analytical decision about the value and meaning of that piece of data. I like to think about it as channelling/chorralling stuff from different sized bodies of water, with Google etc. being the ocean, all the way to the pond of the database as the most processed info, and the puddle of the resulting outline. :-)

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