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Posted by Franz Grieser
Dec 2, 2014 at 08:16 PM
>“Do the work, share the work, and talk about the work all in one place.
>Evernote’s newest feature, Work Chat, connects you with colleagues
>to achieve your best.”
To me, this shows they do not really know what their users are doing.
Or that I am not a representative user :-)
Posted by Ken
Dec 3, 2014 at 04:43 AM
Dr Andus wrote:
Ken wrote:
>>Have you looked at alternatives like Crashplan?
>
>Thanks for the suggestion. I’m aware that there are probably some better
>services out there, but that brings me to another problem with cloud
>services. Once you’re heavily invested into one, it’s not that easy to
>switch… I’d need a week (that I currently haven’t got) to re-upload
>masses of data that would hog the bandwidth and CPU during that time…
>Just can’t afford to lose that sort of time just now. But when vacation
>time comes, then again I don’t feel like spending my precious free time
>on it… You see the catch 22?
Crashplan will allow you to “seed” your account by sending you a hard drive. There is a fee involved, but for those with slow connections, or limited bandwidth, it may be a worthwhile investment. Here is a link that describes the service: http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/Latest/Backup/Seeded_Backup .
—Ken
Posted by Ken
Dec 3, 2014 at 04:59 AM
Dr Andus wrote:
>I’m wondering if I’m just in a totally wrong demographic or profession,
>but I don’t get this overwhelming focus on constant sharing and
>collaboration. It’s nice to be able to do it when you need it, but does
>that mean that every single app needs live collaboration and sharing? Is
>everybody out there really constantly chatting and sharing while
>working?
>
>Anyway, it just feels like a lot of development time and energy is going
>into these collaborative and sharing features, when that sort of thing
>could be achieved at the OS level or by some specialist (screen-sharing,
>teleconferencing) tool, rather than having to build that into every
>single app…
>
>Unless it’s just a ploy to use the power of social networking (i.e. peer
>pressure) to force the product on one’s colleagues… OK, rant over…
While I share your frustration, and am no fan of social media, I can understand the appeal of a robust program that allows collaboration and document sharing. Email is one of my primary tools at work, but sometimes when multiple parties are involved in a negotiation or discussion of multiple documents, email tends to fall apart for tracking discussion and document comments or suggestions.
Many of these programs, like Trello, Asana, etc. are great tools for their specific purpose, but it would be best if one or two comprehensive and robust programs could carry the load and become industry standards like MS Office (love it or hate it). I work with many parties outside of my office, and even Word is not necessarily a standard, as documents are often shipped as PDF files, or worse scans. I had hopes that Google Wave would mature, but it seemed more like a technology showcase than a product. Quip, which MadaboutDana (Bill?) mentioned in an earlier post, seems like they understand the concept, but it still seems a bit immature. I hate to say it, but I wish Microsoft could invent such a product that incorporated Word, Excel and possibly One Note documents in some collaborative environment so everybody involved in a project or discrete activity could all work off the “same page” in one threaded discussion. I am getting tired to piecing together email messages from multiple parties.
I know this software does not appeal to everybody, but collaboration and threaded discussions do have their place beyond forums and social media.
—Ken
Posted by Paul Korm
Dec 3, 2014 at 11:08 AM
The classic collaborative environment is what we’re doing right here—a threaded forum. A lot of the new collaborative thingies are riffs on that theme.
As Ken mentioned—my work involves a lot of email shuffling of briefs and drafts. Most of the time my colleagues and I are never in the same locale and all work is by mail or voice calls. When a meeting is involved our tool of choice is join.me where one of us “drives” the document and the rest of us discuss it while watching the driver make the changes.
I think it is the virtual, distributed nature of today’s workplace that drives a lot of the interest in collaboration tools.
Posted by Paul Korm
Dec 3, 2014 at 11:11 AM
We also use Lync, which is a private IM service for people on the same network, and Chatter which is a private twitter-like service for longer messages and document sharing.