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moo.do - new service in the workflowy / checkvist space
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Posted by zoe
Oct 17, 2014 at 01:21 PM
>The beauty of Workflowy is that it leaves it completely up to the user
>whether a bullet-point item represents a list item, a folder, a
>category, a context (work, home etc.) or anything else.
Yes, echoing this. My favorite thing about watching the evolution of WF is the fact that it’s more of a platform than an app. I have seen many users’ blogs and each person seems to use it differently. Users are not stuffed into a single love-it-or-leave-it mode of working.
What I wish for is the visual richness of something like Trello, where cards/nodes can have attachments, Markdown descriptions, checklists, etc. Trello’s top-level organization (individual “boards,” infinite horizontal scrolling to the right) is cumbersome, though. Springpad was my favorite day-to-day software for this stuff, and sadly nothing has come about with its variety of content types.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 21, 2014 at 07:02 PM
Just been checking out moo.do. It’s a very professional piece of work.
It does do little triangle ‘fold’ indicators, in fact, but you have to pass your mouse over a parent item to see them. The iOS apps are clearer in this respect.
What I’m very impressed by is the way you can open multiple windows onto your single document. Of course you can, in theory, do that in Workflowy, but not as conveniently, and in moo.do’s case the multiple windows all update simultaneously (although of course you’d normally be using secondary windows to ‘focus’ [= hoist] a particular item).
The agenda is very tidy. I think this is a very nice addition, and actually superior to Workflowy, because it acts as a concentrator for all items with specific dates/times/priorities.
I’m impressed! I’d be even more impressed if there was a desktop app, and if the iPad version had more than just a single window (it’s basically an enlarged version of the iPhone app); but it’s very early days.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 21, 2014 at 07:09 PM
At first, I thought the agenda was rather limited. But in fact, if you start playing around with items in the agenda, you soon find they’re very flexible. For example: if you create an item with a date/priority, so it appears in the agenda, then create a sublist of items under that item, the item appears emboldened in the agenda. If you click on the folding triangle, the list view window focuses on the parent item and opens the subitems alongside the agenda. So you can make notes in subitems etc.
I wonder how that works in iOS. Oh dear, really haven’t got time to get all intrigued by this, but I’m going to have to look…
Posted by Jay Meistrich
Nov 25, 2014 at 03:18 AM
Hey everyone, I’m one of the co-founders of Moo.do. We saw this thread when we first launched and got some great ideas from you.
We now have folding markers so you can collapse items easily. We find it distracting to see folding icons and bullets on every item when we want to focus on just the text, so we have the folding icon show only on hover. But we understand that some people want to always see the bullets, so we will put that in as an option.
We just launched recurring dates, so you can use dates like “@every friday 4pm” or even “@every other monday from 11/24 at 2:00”.
Also, we’ve tried to make our usage of Google Drive clearer on the landing page, but it’s actually much safer than signing up with an email address. Moo.do only has access to the files it creates on Google Drive, not any of your other files. And everything runs client-side, so nothing is ever sent to our servers. So, we aren’t even able to see what you’re writing, like other companies that use a normal email signup do. All we know about you is your email address.
We’re currently working on improving the speed of Moo.do. I’m pretty sure Moo.do is already much faster than Workflowy, but we’re making it even better.
MadAboutDana: We’re planning to have multiple views in the iPad app in the future. And we have a Chrome app that you can use on the desktop.
Thanks everyone for checking it out. And please let me know if you have more feedback so we can continue to make Moo.do better for you.
Posted by jaslar
Nov 26, 2014 at 04:17 PM
Thank you for posting here. And thank you for developing such an intriguing and useful product.
I tried Moo.do yesterday for quite a while, both on my iPad 2 and my Nexus 7. There are many things to like. As you might expect from the folks here, I’m an outlining fan, so dove right into that. On both platforms, it worked well, and I didn’t need bullets to make sense of it.
I liked the ease of adding dates and contacts. I liked the agenda view. The controls for prioritizing and cleaning things up came clear pretty quickly. I like the ease of searching.
As a standalone tool across multiple platforms, this is very good - an elegant UI, good functions, and kind of fun to play with. I could easily see adopting it as a dashboard for llife.
But I have a couple of questions and observations.
First, and excuse me if I just missed this, but how (on the platforms I mentioned), do I copy or export text? For instance, the outliner worked so well I quickly put together a draft of something I’d like to flesh out in a word processor. But I couldn’t find a way to select, copy and paste. Nor, come to think of it, was I able to paste a URL next to a to do item. A lot of the folks here move data across several apps.
Second, the Google sign in made me think I would see some of the dates on my Google calendar. I suspect that Google integration adds a whole other layer of complexity to your work, but that would certainly increase its value, too. (I do like the ability to quickly pop into an email, though.)
Too, I’ve noticed that leaving the program to do something else then coming back forces Moo.do (on the Android version, anyhow) to reload - a bit of an annoyance.
Finally, what’s your business plan with this. How will you make money?
At any rate, the software is interesting enough to keep me at it for several hours. Well done!