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Posted by quant
Oct 24, 2007 at 11:08 PM
PPL wrote:
>>Let me just paste the roadmap for the planned features in UR:
># HTML export
># Rich
>text editor enhancements
># Ability to hide completed items
># Support updating form
>date field via Calendar pane
># Multi-user enhancements
># Internal editing of
>stored web page items
># Show Lineage in Item Parents pane
># Calendar pane
># Tab
>enhancements
># Title attribute based on other attribute values
># Custom sorting in
>tree
># Keywords pane
># Filtering in tree
># Open multiple items in side-by-side
>windows
># Multi-DB search
># Connections pane
>
>They seem to have simply copied the
>current features of SQLNotes! http://www.sqlnotes.net (free while in beta)
are you kidding? This list is composed from numerous suggestions and long discussions on UltraRecall’s forum ... I personally suggested several of those when SQLNotes didn’t even exist!!! What a joke ...
Posted by quant
Oct 24, 2007 at 11:17 PM
PPL wrote:
>They seem to have simply copied the
>current features of SQLNotes! http://www.sqlnotes.net (free while in beta)
OK, I got it know, you’re the developer of that soft ... not very kind of you, Pierre
I woudn’t be surprised if it was the other way around ... you getting ideas from UltraRecall forum ...
Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Oct 24, 2007 at 11:34 PM
Sorry, I didn’t want to offend anyone especially not you quant
BTW I only discovered UR 2 months ago when someone first posted on the Kinook forum something about SQLNotes.
http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?s=a9f387a7ac7234a81a97ab7ebb8e9ebe&threadid=2870
My software, started 4 years ago, is mostly based on Ecco, with some extensions.
Posted by Cassius
Oct 25, 2007 at 03:58 AM
Yes, the manual for UR is not too helpful for a newbie. Having recently started myself, I recommend that you start at Section 2.4, p.47. Even then, one needs to skim/skip much. What I started to do was to set up a PIM file of references to pages in the manual, or excerpts from the manual, that are useful. For example:
2.1.1.1, p20: for what is and isn’t safe to delete.
The main sections include so many twigs that one cannot comprehend the forest. (Twigs belong in appendices.)
I also started with just two panes open.
I’ve written to Kinook about the manual and made some suggestions. It is aware that the manual needs work. I also suggested ideas for changes to its Web site to make US seem less formidable/intimidating…with the hope that it will attract more purchasers.
-c
Posted by Ken Ashworth
Oct 25, 2007 at 04:32 AM
quant wrote:
>UR can be considered as a classic rational database but with a very >well thought of and customized front-end.
># Show Lineage in Item Parents pane
Resolving this issue will certianly help with the relational capabilities.
Real World Situation:
Track Advertising for a Real Estate Listing
\Current Listings
\Listing Record-1
\Listing Record-2
\Listing Record-3
\Adv Publication
\Adv Publication Issue
\Listing Record-1 (Link)
\Listing Record-2 (Link)
\Adv Publication Issue
\Listing Record-1 (Link)
\Listing Record-3 (Link)
Each Listing Record has a unique number (MLS No.). Search on the MLS No., focus the search on the parent folder - Adv Publication - and include all children (recurse). The search will return all instances of an Adv Event for a Listing.
Unfortunately, Attributes from the parent lineage are not visible (available) to the child. Granted, you can add the Lineage Attribute to the Search Results Pane, but parent Attributes are not available for Export of the Search Results.
The parent record - Adv Publication Issue - contains Attributes (fields) for the cost of the adv, the number of Listings present in the adv, adv publication issue info. Export all this to Excel and I can work something up to hand to the client.
The fact that this is on the road map is a positive sign.
quant wrote:
># Title attribute based on other attribute values
Can we say Calculated Fields. A user defined Attribute that derives it’s value from an expression.
>this is also going to be
>addressed by having HTML export.
># Internal editing of stored web page items
It’ll be interesting to see what they come up with, the output side needs attention.
I wonder sometimes if Kinook sees the potential for a database publishing engine, or maybe I’m too small of an audiance.
bboyd wrote:
>I’d love to have better explanations for some of its powerful features
What do you want to do?
What types of data do you collect and how do you want present it, what problems are you trying to solve, what questions need answers.
There’s a lot about the program I don’t know, I can leran from the discussion.