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Posted by Wayne K
Apr 22, 2014 at 03:44 AM
OK, that’s better than nothing. I haven’t kept up with all the enhancements. A while ago I posted a question about it on the Ecco Pro forum and was told it wasn’t possible.
Posted by Ken
Apr 22, 2014 at 03:52 AM
Wayne K wrote:
Pierre,
>
>Yes, thanks. I downloaded the latest version a couple of days ago and
>am giving it another try. I know that it’s capable of doing that and a
>lot more,and the fact that it’s somewhat modeled on Ecco Pro makes it an
>obvious choice for me. I’ve just had a hard time grasping it in the
>past. Usually, I can go into a new program and pretty quickly figure
>out how it works. That hasn’t been the case with InfoQube. I end up
>frustrated because it does things I don’t understand and because I can’t
>figure out how to get it to do what seems like simple things.
>
Wayne,
I feel the same way. Its not that I do not like reading the manual, as I do, but if an action that I do not use often is not clear, then I have issues because I do not want to be spending time always having to look up commands and actions. I suspect that I did not have this issue with Ecco because I used it every day for so many years that actions were being done by “muscle memory” (like driving a manual transmission). Also, a program needs to be somewhat compatible with my expectations as to how it should operate. Like many of us, I have been using software for some time (since 1984), so I have seen my fair share of what makes sense and what does not. For example, while I have been using Adobe Lightroom since its introduction, I find much of their software to be quite unintuitive (especially PS Elements). I am willing to invest some time and effort, but there is a limit. At that point, I begin to seek alternatives. When my schedule permits, I plan on giving IQ another chance. But if it is too hard for me to get productive, then I would suspect that I am not the target audience.
—Ken
>I really appreciate the work you’ve put into this project. The fault is
>on my end. I’m just going to have to put in the time to really work
>through it and go back through your website tutorials. I know you’ve
>been very generous in offering your help to users and I may need to call
>on you for some more of that.
>
>
>Wayne
Posted by Pierre Paul Landry
Apr 22, 2014 at 04:42 AM
>I know you’ve been very generous in offering your help to users and I may need to call
>on you for some more of that.
>
>Wayne
Yes, the free 30 minute phone call / skype should get you going, as it has for many other IQ users in the past.
Do not hesitate to ask.
Pierre
Posted by jimspoon
Apr 22, 2014 at 05:58 AM
It’s not hard to use IQ pretty much like you use Ecco. A lot of the terminology is different though. I even like to put the IQ “properties” pane on the left side of the IQ window, where it provides the function of the Ecco “folders” pane, and much more. The IQ “grids” are quite similar to the Ecco “notepad views”. A lot of the Ecco keyboard shortcuts also work in IQ. Ctrl+F will bring up a find window in IQ as it does in Ecco. Double-clicking a folder in the Properties pane will display its contents in a Scratch grid, just like double-clicking a folder in Ecco. And so on.
Posted by Lucas
Apr 22, 2014 at 02:07 PM
While we’re on the subject of Ecco Pro and IQ (hope I’m not taking the thread too far astray)...
I find IQ to be an amazing product, I own a license, and although I’m primarily on Mac, every once in a while I fire up Parallels and try to get into IQ again. Every time I’m impressed by the sophisitication and power of the program. But the one thing I still can’t get over in the transition from Ecco Pro to IQ is the loss of hierarchical folders. Grids basically take the place of folders, and grids offer all kinds of additional functionality that folders do not, but, at least last time I checked, grids can’t be organized hierarchically. That becomes a deal-breaker for me. I suppose this is a question to raise on the IQ forums, but I’m curious if any of you Ecco Pro users who now use IQ have found a good way to deal with this issue. Is it practical to have hundreds grids (as I used to have hundreds of folders in Ecco Pro), even if the grids can’t be arranged hierarchically? Or is there a better way to approach this?