rightnote on bits for $29.97, 50% off

Started by jimspoon on 3/4/2014
jimspoon 3/4/2014 7:19 pm
http://www.bitsdujour.com/

this was yesterday's deal, extended another day.

I might have to look at it again. Any takers?
PIMfan 3/5/2014 12:22 am
Jim -

I find Rightnote interesting. I downloaded the Pro version a couple months back and liked some of it's features - I really like its support for including PDFs into it's search index.

I did find the seach functionality initially a bit confusing for conducting boolean searches after I read the help file. I sent an email to Raul Bauer, and he responded as follows:
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Me: I'm trying to perform a search for items that include two (non-contiguous) terms - an "AND" search. In the Help File under "Search", it describes a search tab options pane for:
All terms (for FTS only) Match all terms together or if unchecked then match any term.
I don't see that option on the search tab options pane. I have FTS enabled. Am I looking in the wrong place? How do I search for items that have two words I specify?

Raul: Sorry the help on that topic is outdated. You need to have the option "exact phrase" unchecked. (plus fast mode)
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After this, I was able to conduct the searches I wanted. Hopefully the above might help you also.

Search is quite fast in my experience although in all truthfulness, I did not import 10K documents or anything like that. I liked that search highlighting is included. Unfortunately, I still have not found anything as satisfying as the search results highlighting and category intersection window of the original desktop Evernote v2.2 PIM (I still use it today).

One feature I find missing is the ability to save searches ala InfoRecall or InfoQube - both of which I used in the past (and am taking another try at right now)...

Overall, I kinda like RightNote (and still have the free one on my desktop). Be sure to post back your thoughts on RightNote after using it for a while - I'd be interested in learning what you think if you buy it.

PIMfan
22111 3/6/2014 6:10 pm
"I have FTS enabled."

PIMfan,

would you be so kind as to tell me what exactly you do?

I had not de-installed RN from my system, so it's reverted to free, but I, OF COURSE, had never enabled "Exact Phrase" when I tried Boolean search, and I simply do NOT get it.

Search mode: normal
Search in: captions AND content
Options: none
Scope: all pages

Now, "Search for"

a b

does nothing, and

a AND b

doesn't do anything either.

Now, in Tools-Options-Search:
expand results: on
include sample text: yes
highlight search term: yes
include sample text for fts: yes or no, no difference!
Include fts samples if less than 14 results
limit displayed search results to 100 items
search results icon mode: user
words before: 2
words after: 2
extended unicode support: yes or no, no difference

I do NOT get any search results, and even for terms that only contain a...z chars.

Neither for

a OR b

and yes, I saved the file before searching. That's all I can do.

So either this prog is not only buggy or I must have overlooked something very important, and I kindly ask you to look it up together.

What are your exact settings from which your Boolean search (And or OR) does bring any result?

Or, what additional settings do you find and which I did not mention above, re free vs. Prof or such? But then, when my version WAS "Prof", I tried for hours.

Chris Murtland 3/6/2014 6:28 pm
22111, I edited your post to remove the profanity and the personal attacks. If you can't refrain from those things, I'll have to ban you from the forum.

Thanks,
Chris

22111 3/6/2014 7:13 pm
OK, even though this would be a loose-loose situation, considering that I'm responsible for lots of traffic here, right?

But back to RightNote: I gave specifics; people who implay I'm wrong didn't, in the past, and that's a quite unhealthy situation for which I very much hope there will be new info about WHY I'm mistaken.

And finally, the reprimanded part of my vocabulary is in line with that of the U.S. Government, and no mistake there, that's a fact. ;-)

22111 3/6/2014 7:13 pm
OK, even though this would be a loose-loose situation, considering that I'm responsible for lots of traffic here, right?

But back to RightNote: I gave specifics; people who implay I'm wrong didn't, in the past, and that's a quite unhealthy situation for which I very much hope there will be new info about WHY I'm mistaken.

And finally, the reprimanded part of my vocabulary is in line with that of the U.S. Government, and no mistake there, that's a fact. ;-)

22111 3/6/2014 7:13 pm
OK, even though this would be a loose-loose situation, considering that I'm responsible for lots of traffic here, right?

But back to RightNote: I gave specifics; people who implay I'm wrong didn't, in the past, and that's a quite unhealthy situation for which I very much hope there will be new info about WHY I'm mistaken.

And finally, the reprimanded part of my vocabulary is in line with that of the U.S. Government, and no mistake there, that's a fact. ;-)

22111 3/6/2014 7:14 pm
(double post, unintentional)

22111 3/6/2014 7:15 pm
(triple even, my AHK script, by lack of working memory, runs bonkers. sorry.)

PIMfan 3/8/2014 7:19 pm
22111 -

What version are you running (I'm on the Freeware version 3.0.9.1). AND/OR Boolean searches are working fine for me. Follow the below to see an example:

1) Open RNUserGuide.rnt
2) Select the More Features tab.
3) In the left hand window, notice that the third note has "ISO" in the title and the first entry under Samples has "template".
4) Use File--> Properties to ensure Full-Text Search is enabled (see "Search" in the Help file).
5) In the search window, Set Search Mode: Fast and Options: Match Whole Word.
6) In the search bar, enter (without quotes) "template ISO". Result --> No hits found. This executes a Boolean AND search and no results found is what is expected for this search. "AND" searches are the default when multiple terms are specified - no need to use "AND" between terms.
6) Clear the search bar and enter (without quotes) "template OR ISO". Quick search will quickly show three hits - two with the word template, and a third that has multiple hits on ISO. By adding "OR" between the terms, Boolean OR search was done.

Using the above, I find RightNote search to work as I would expect and also appreciate the search result speed and highlighting. Highlighting of terms inside the item seems to be a bit inconsistent, but I find that a minor inconvenience and have reported this to Raul Bauer and I'm sure he will fix it in the near future - he provides good support for RightNote.

As recompense for the above assist to you, I would ask a bit of indulgence for me to offer one bit of input: PIM tools are wonderful things and I get enormous enjoyment out of using and exploring their features. I don't depend on any single one but it's clear to me that I derive great enjoyment from simply learning how to use them (kind of like discovering a storyline in a novel). With that in mind, I appreciate that all PIMS have different strengths and weaknesses, and no two users have the exact same needs. That means that a tool that may not attract my interest may indeed be the perfect fit for someone else. To reflect this, use of derogatory terms like "trash", "rubbish",etc when describing a piece of software may rub some readers wrong. Like people, a PIM may "click" with some but not others. Consideration and employment of this perspective is something I think might reduce some of the abrasive edge from your posts. If you've read this far, you've granted my indulgence and I appreciate that. The ability to learn what works and doesn't work for a particular user investigating a PIM is great strength of this forum, and the tone employed is itself a tool to help draw in interested readers.

Peace and "PIM joy" to you....
22111 5/13/2014 1:02 pm
PIMfan,

Thank you very much for your above observations and considerations, which I highly appreciate.

I reconsidered both RN, and my judging sw.

Details re RN here:

http://www.donationcoder.com/forum/index.php?topic=37935.new#new