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Posted by MenAgerie
Jan 18, 2014 at 03:46 PM
Do any of you use Daniel Ludeke’s Zettlekasten, or know of any English guides/tutorials etc. Much like ConnectedText, it looks like it is very useful and suited to my purpose (social Science research/writing), but (again like CT) I cannot figure out how to use it. I remain frustrated by CT, despite Dr Andus’ guides, and many other’s good view of it. My own limitations I am sure - I keep trying though, but it just leaves me feeling idiotically simple-minded that I cannot get my head round it. I am hope that Zettekasten may either reveal itself more easily or provide a spur to finally cracking CT!
I cling to such idealistic optimism too much, i am sure. Hey ho.
Posted by 22111
Jan 19, 2014 at 05:00 PM
MenaGerie
(within parentheses: weird nom de plume, here? In fact I consider “Tennessee” Williams one of the utmost playwrights of all time, and I say this in spite of the fact that I’m very aware of the problems of his later life, and of his later writings for the stage),
would you be so kind as to share some experience with that Zettelkasten sw? Perhaps with respect to askSam? I had always been intrigued by the “Zettelkasten” paradigm (which had been the very first “set-up” I had worked in) but I never grasped any possible “advantage” “over” the outline paradigm, so I’d be certainly very instructive both for myself and for many readers if you gave some insight into the advantages and shortcomings of one of the electronic realizations of that concept.
Thank you very much in advance (if your post is more than just some 3 lines, that is! ;-) )
Posted by MenAgerie
Jan 22, 2014 at 11:45 PM
2211
The screen names is less a Tennessee Williams reference that a Billy Cobam and Bud Powell reference (although I misremembered the Bud Powell piece Glass Enclosure!). I was ‘Prog Rocking out’ at the time!
I have very little experience with Zettlekasten - and none of AskSam. I gave it an outing a very long time ago, when beginning to scout out the whole outliner thing - it just didn’t feel right after using MyInfo, which I took to straight away; and still use to this day.
The reason for my post was to try and get some English language pointers as to Zettlekasten’s (Zttlkn) utility and way of deploying it. I have little time to spend on extensive experimentation, even on software I can understand. But Zttlkn looks promising, from Manfred Kuehn’s comments [http://takingnotenow.blogspot.co.uk/2014/01/luedeckes-zettelkasten-again.html], and from what I can decipher with the help of Google translate.
What I have found that seems to do what I want (academic social science/theory) is NotaBene (NB), particularity the ibidem/orbis functions. Specifically, I want a way of recording my reading notes against a bibliographic reference - consisting of quotes, precis, and my reflections, in such a way that I can assemble multiple notes on a particular topic/sub-topic into the bare-bones of a discussion/argument without losing the bibliographical references (fear of plagiarism accusations). In this way I could in future assemble, reassemble, experiment, synthesise the fruits of my diverse labours in multiple creative ways - hopefully to produce novel insights etc.
Unfortunately I found NB rather annoying and confusing (with its hidden ‘mark up type codes’ messing with my paragraphs etc): and as I said initially, I simply feel like a fool sitting in front of Connected Text, not knowing what to do, or what is going on. Not a good attribute for a piece of software.
My search continues… crimp-style.
Posted by Dr Andus
Jan 23, 2014 at 12:41 AM
MenAgerie wrote:
>Specifically, I want a way of recording my reading notes
>against a bibliographic reference - consisting of quotes, precis, and my
>reflections, in such a way that I can assemble multiple notes on a
>particular topic/sub-topic into the bare-bones of a discussion/argument
>without losing the bibliographical references (fear of plagiarism
>accusations). In this way I could in future assemble, reassemble,
>experiment, synthesise the fruits of my diverse labours in multiple
>creative ways - hopefully to produce novel insights etc.
Have you looked at Citavi? It looks like a compromise between a Zettelkasten system and a hierarchical database/outliner:
https://www.citavi.com/en/features.html
Posted by Dr Andus
Jan 23, 2014 at 12:44 AM
Dr Andus wrote:
>Have you looked at Citavi? It looks like a compromise between a
>Zettelkasten system and a hierarchical database/outliner:
>https://www.citavi.com/en/features.html
Here is a Youtube video on it as well:
http://youtu.be/YoZd_j0AdG4