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Posted by 22111
Dec 22, 2013 at 02:36 PM
That would have been “anything even very far RELATED to “commercial””
And what about this link here:
http://www.indoition.com/text-processing-dtp-tools.htm :
“SmartDocs
Adds functions to manage and reuse content from within Microsoft Word documents.
Price: approx. $695 per user per year”
That’s what I call completely crazy.
But it’s a good link for more such stuff.
Posted by 22111
Dec 23, 2013 at 02:11 PM
Of course, a good versioning/collaboration system needs to trace deliberate alterations of colleagues’ work, for an example see the second commentary here:
http://funnyexam.com/answers/popular/51768-and-i-love-pus-y-thumbs
In corporate life, such alterations ain’t done in this obvious manner, but there are reports of e.g. replacing right numbers with wrong ones, and similar, to make your opponent look a dumbo.
(Speaking of gold mines… http://funnyexam.com/answers/popular/43708-ain-t-gettin-my-leaves-be and many more, allow this one more, please http://funnyexam.com/answers/popular/12367-translation-i-m-not-doin (I suppose those chars are con chars))
Posted by 22111
Dec 24, 2013 at 12:55 AM
Live links, and virtual docs gathered by run-time
Several times, I mentioned broken links, cf. file system synching in Ultra Recall (which is one of the best solutions currently available though). By accident, I just discovered obscure sw and a DC remark on it which I’d like to share in order to show that even 10 and more ago, live links to the file system were possible in non-file managers.
It’s a Chinese corporation with the url http://www.evermore.com . They did a text processor within their EIOffice, from 2001, see http://www.eioffice.com . Now they call their office suite Yozo Office (60$, I had never heard of any of these here): http://www.yozooffice.com
The clue being to found here: http://www.donationcoder.com/Reviews/Archive/WordProcs/#part_2 : “Live links are easy to create, impossible to break. Unlike any other word processor, you can create a link between documents and document types. Just copy (bookmark, URL, spreadsheet, formula, cell reference) and paste (as link). You can change the link source all day and it will still retain the link intelligently!”
Hence, two things: This “proves” (in fact, no proof needed, it was evident as such) that outliners, too, could do the same.
And (please read the DC citation again), it’s a very good idea for the present collaboration/versioning sw task: Have a max of “sources” in separate files (or db records), and then build up your different doc versions by a kind of “link tables”, in run time. Why not have “virtual documents” consisting of just a “fill-it-up table”, and then fetching their content from hundreds of independent elements (which then can appear in any order, in any combination, in any such document)?
Just the same principle as I see outliners with multiple trees and their respective content items, those not “belonging” to this or that tree in the db, but just referenced to, from these trees.
Both outlining, and collaboration/versioning, are chaos M, and you will not clear it out but by SEPARATING THE ELEMENTS FROM THE DOCUMENT.
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Dec 24, 2013 at 05:41 PM
Sciagent wrote:
>There are few commercial solutions, but do not seem to be affordable:
>Crocodoc
>A.nnotate.com
>GroupDocs Annotation
Thanks for the heads up on these offerings. I was not aware of any, and I find a.nnotate.com in particular very attractive and excellent value: you only pay for ‘uploaders’, whereas you may have an infinite number of free ‘annotators’ at no additional charge.
As someone who makes a living in a market very similar to yours, I must say that, from my personal experience, there’s no free lunch, I.e. no tool would offer the kind of functionality that you want for free. Even if you do find something that seems to fullfil your expectations at no cost, it won’t be for long. The market for professional online collaboration is still in transition and many companies are still searching for their permanent business model. Yes, even Adobe.
I should add that I strongly believe that professionals should be willing to pay for the development of their tools, in the same way that they expect to be paid for their own intellectual work.
I focus on the intellectual labour market because only in this domain have we been spoilt to expect something for nothing. I know of no manual labourer who has ever expected his/her tool to be provided for free, be it a tractor or a screwdriver. But the fact that information reproduction is very cheap, doesn’t reduce the effort required for its creation.
Posted by Dr Andus
Jan 9, 2014 at 11:38 AM
If you’re a PDF-Xchange Viewer PRO user, you probably know that Tracker Software recently provided a free licence to the next product in line called PDF-Xchange Editor (which can install separately, so you can have both).
I’m wondering if anyone else has tried Editor and what you think about it. I’ve been using it for a few weeks but I’m still not convinced and keep going back to Viewer. Editor does seem to have a more sophisticated search tool, but otherwise I can’t see a huge difference. Am I missing something?
Here is the description of the product:
http://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-editor
Unfortunately they haven’t updated the comparison chart yet, so it’s not immediately obvious how Editor is different:
http://www.tracker-software.com/pdf-xchange-products-comparison-chart