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Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 4, 2013 at 02:17 PM
DataMill wrote:
I don’t believe that Alphalina makes a separate desktop version.
Oh, really? I’ve never tried Win8 but after all that MS talk about having the same OS for PCs and tablets I just assumed that the software would work on both…
Posted by Lucas
Dec 5, 2013 at 03:50 AM
Yes, Metro-style apps like Mind Outliner work on regular PC’s running Windows 8, it’s just that they run in the Metro-style environment (or whatever the proper term is), which is distinct from and runs alongside the regular, pre-Windows 8 “desktop” environment.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Dec 5, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Lucas has highlighted a significant point. Until I played with Windows 8.1, I hadn’t realised what a truly schizophrenic operating system Win8 is. The desktop is like a completely different environment from the environment-formerly-known-as-Metro. In fact, if you Alt+Tab between running applications, you’ll find the (original) desktop treated like just another application (although to be fair, Win7 does this, too). If you use a Start menu tool like Classic Start Menu, you’ll find separate entries for “Programs” (= all the stuff you run on the normal Win7 desktop) and “Apps” (= all the new stuff you run in the new tablet-style interface). The two things really are completely different!
There are solutions that bridge the divide. The clever people at Stardock have a utility that allows you to run Modern (Metro) apps in desktop windows; you’ll find it here:
https://www.stardock.com/products/modernmix/
But otherwise, the two environments are irrevocably separate. An app like Mind Outliner, for example, will ONLY run in the Modern (Metro) interface!
Posted by Eugene Akinshin
Dec 6, 2013 at 07:58 AM
Hi,
My name is Eugene Akinshin, I’m co-founder of the Perpetuum Software and Aphalina. One of our customers send me link to this topic.
>Lucas wrote:
>>After searching, I see that the company name is “Aphalina”
>
>I see that Aphalina is a daughter company of Perpetuum Software, which
>is part of Enterra Inc, which seems to be a Russian company with 60
>software developers and an international presence. That’s seems to be a
>different profile from the usual one-man bands and micro-companies that
>tend to develop outliner software, doesn’t it? Could this be the start
>of a new trend? Biggish software houses trying to come to terms with the
>new MS strategy (and the demise of the PC) and starting to develop
>software for individual consumers?
Yes, we are relatively big company (almost 100 people with all subsidiaries) but Aphalina is very small and independent unit inside our holding structure that now works only on tablet software. Software market for traditional PC is still strong but we always looking for the new opportunities and I believe that tablets is one of the most promising things in our industry. We started from simple apps there but we also have plans to create complex business software for tablets.
If you have any questions regarding our company and our software please send me e-mail to eugene [ at ] perpetuumsoft.com.
Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 7, 2013 at 05:39 PM
Eugene Akinshin wrote:
>My name is Eugene Akinshin, I’m co-founder of the Perpetuum Software and
>Aphalina. One of our customers send me link to this topic.
>
>Yes, we are relatively big company (almost 100 people with all
>subsidiaries) but Aphalina is very small and independent unit inside our
>holding structure that now works only on tablet software. Software
>market for traditional PC is still strong but we always looking for the
>new opportunities and I believe that tablets is one of the most
>promising things in our industry. We started from simple apps there but
>we also have plans to create complex business software for tablets.
Hi Eugene, welcome to the forum and thanks for your clarification. We’ll be very interested to hear about any new outliners, note-taking apps and the like that you might be developing.