New Win8 Outliner
Started by DataMill
on 12/1/2013
DataMill
12/1/2013 3:03 pm
There's a new single pane outliner in the Win8 App Store called Mind Outliner by Alphalina. It seems pretty decent and notably can open and export to OPML. It has various themes and item formatting is available. It also has inline notes and checkboxes.
It's still version 1.1 and has yet to include hoisting and columns and the other desirable features, but for $4.99, it's still a decent app.
Mike
It's still version 1.1 and has yet to include hoisting and columns and the other desirable features, but for $4.99, it's still a decent app.
Mike
Lucas
12/2/2013 12:23 am
Thanks for the heads up. After searching, I see that the company name is "Aphaline":
http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/mind-outliner/e40c572e-7903-463e-8233-5a3c52c49e46/m/row
or
http://goo.gl/3Ouc0T
http://apps.microsoft.com/windows/en-us/app/mind-outliner/e40c572e-7903-463e-8233-5a3c52c49e46/m/row
or
http://goo.gl/3Ouc0T
Lucas
12/2/2013 12:23 am
Sorry, that's "Aphalina"
Dr Andus
12/3/2013 10:55 pm
DataMill wrote:
Thanks. Good to see a new single-pane outliner with inline notes, as there are so few of them. It looks though as designed with a tablet in mind. What does it look like on a desktop?
Lucas wrote:
I see that Aphalina is a daughter company of Perpetuum Software, which is part of Enterra Inc, which seems to be a Russian company with 60 software developers and an international presence. That's seems to be a different profile from the usual one-man bands and micro-companies that tend to develop outliner software, doesn't it? Could this be the start of a new trend? Biggish software houses trying to come to terms with the new MS strategy (and the demise of the PC) and starting to develop software for individual consumers?
There's a new single pane outliner in the Win8 App Store called Mind
Outliner by Alphalina. It seems pretty decent and notably can open and
export to OPML. It has various themes and item formatting is available.
It also has inline notes and checkboxes.
Thanks. Good to see a new single-pane outliner with inline notes, as there are so few of them. It looks though as designed with a tablet in mind. What does it look like on a desktop?
Lucas wrote:
After searching, I see that the company name is “Aphalina”
I see that Aphalina is a daughter company of Perpetuum Software, which is part of Enterra Inc, which seems to be a Russian company with 60 software developers and an international presence. That's seems to be a different profile from the usual one-man bands and micro-companies that tend to develop outliner software, doesn't it? Could this be the start of a new trend? Biggish software houses trying to come to terms with the new MS strategy (and the demise of the PC) and starting to develop software for individual consumers?
DataMill
12/4/2013 2:07 pm
I don't believe that Alphalina makes a separate desktop version. I emailed them and suggested that they introduce themselves here to talk about Mind Outliner. Their company makes a few other products, as well.
-Mike
-Mike
Dr Andus
12/4/2013 2:17 pm
DataMill wrote:
Oh, really? I've never tried Win8 but after all that MS talk about having the same OS for PCs and tablets I just assumed that the software would work on both...
I don't believe that Alphalina makes a separate desktop version.
Oh, really? I've never tried Win8 but after all that MS talk about having the same OS for PCs and tablets I just assumed that the software would work on both...
Lucas
12/5/2013 3:50 am
Yes, Metro-style apps like Mind Outliner work on regular PC's running Windows 8, it's just that they run in the Metro-style environment (or whatever the proper term is), which is distinct from and runs alongside the regular, pre-Windows 8 "desktop" environment.
MadaboutDana
12/5/2013 12:29 pm
Lucas has highlighted a significant point. Until I played with Windows 8.1, I hadn't realised what a truly schizophrenic operating system Win8 is. The desktop is like a completely different environment from the environment-formerly-known-as-Metro. In fact, if you Alt+Tab between running applications, you'll find the (original) desktop treated like just another application (although to be fair, Win7 does this, too). If you use a Start menu tool like Classic Start Menu, you'll find separate entries for "Programs" (= all the stuff you run on the normal Win7 desktop) and "Apps" (= all the new stuff you run in the new tablet-style interface). The two things really are completely different!
There are solutions that bridge the divide. The clever people at Stardock have a utility that allows you to run Modern (Metro) apps in desktop windows; you'll find it here:
https://www.stardock.com/products/modernmix/
But otherwise, the two environments are irrevocably separate. An app like Mind Outliner, for example, will ONLY run in the Modern (Metro) interface!
There are solutions that bridge the divide. The clever people at Stardock have a utility that allows you to run Modern (Metro) apps in desktop windows; you'll find it here:
https://www.stardock.com/products/modernmix/
But otherwise, the two environments are irrevocably separate. An app like Mind Outliner, for example, will ONLY run in the Modern (Metro) interface!
Eugene Akinshin
12/6/2013 7:58 am
Hi,
My name is Eugene Akinshin, I'm co-founder of the Perpetuum Software and Aphalina. One of our customers send me link to this topic.
Yes, we are relatively big company (almost 100 people with all subsidiaries) but Aphalina is very small and independent unit inside our holding structure that now works only on tablet software. Software market for traditional PC is still strong but we always looking for the new opportunities and I believe that tablets is one of the most promising things in our industry. We started from simple apps there but we also have plans to create complex business software for tablets.
If you have any questions regarding our company and our software please send me e-mail to eugene [ at ] perpetuumsoft.com.
My name is Eugene Akinshin, I'm co-founder of the Perpetuum Software and Aphalina. One of our customers send me link to this topic.
Lucas wrote:
>After searching, I see that the company name is “Aphalina”
I see that Aphalina is a daughter company of Perpetuum Software, which
is part of Enterra Inc, which seems to be a Russian company with 60
software developers and an international presence. That's seems to be a
different profile from the usual one-man bands and micro-companies that
tend to develop outliner software, doesn't it? Could this be the start
of a new trend? Biggish software houses trying to come to terms with the
new MS strategy (and the demise of the PC) and starting to develop
software for individual consumers?
Yes, we are relatively big company (almost 100 people with all subsidiaries) but Aphalina is very small and independent unit inside our holding structure that now works only on tablet software. Software market for traditional PC is still strong but we always looking for the new opportunities and I believe that tablets is one of the most promising things in our industry. We started from simple apps there but we also have plans to create complex business software for tablets.
If you have any questions regarding our company and our software please send me e-mail to eugene [ at ] perpetuumsoft.com.
Dr Andus
12/7/2013 5:39 pm
Eugene Akinshin wrote:
Hi Eugene, welcome to the forum and thanks for your clarification. We'll be very interested to hear about any new outliners, note-taking apps and the like that you might be developing.
My name is Eugene Akinshin, I'm co-founder of the Perpetuum Software and
Aphalina. One of our customers send me link to this topic.
Yes, we are relatively big company (almost 100 people with all
subsidiaries) but Aphalina is very small and independent unit inside our
holding structure that now works only on tablet software. Software
market for traditional PC is still strong but we always looking for the
new opportunities and I believe that tablets is one of the most
promising things in our industry. We started from simple apps there but
we also have plans to create complex business software for tablets.
Hi Eugene, welcome to the forum and thanks for your clarification. We'll be very interested to hear about any new outliners, note-taking apps and the like that you might be developing.
