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Posted by Simon Bolivar
Nov 21, 2013 at 03:40 PM
@Gautam Jain,
I’m not looking for a sticky note product right now but thanks for speaking about your software on this forum and making us all aware of it, most of us appreciate your patience and good manners.
Posted by 22111
Nov 21, 2013 at 03:52 PM
“It doesn’t replace my use of EverNote, MyInfo, or WhizFolders. It fills a specific niche more easily and rapidly than any of the other programs I use.”
I perfectly understand this, but the problem, again, lies in the relative non-accessability of those programs for just (half of) a (single) sentence, cf. above what you can do with macros/scripting, for any such program, but at the condition of course that it is running in the background, but I suppose ONE of those programs at least IS running whenever your pc is on.
As OneNote users will remember (and possible in its current version it’s the same thing; I am speaking of version 3, or was it 2? No, it was version “2003”, part of that “Office” package, or then, ON 2 was part of Office 2003, whatever), it had a sidecar tool for exactly this function, and that tool even ran when ON was not running. But then, the integration of this sidecar tool with the main program left much to be desired, and I finished by deleting my “free” copy of ON, first (since at the time, there was even less possible “hierarchy” in ON that there is today), and after some months, I also deleted the sidecar tool from my pc(s), and I have never been tempted to reinstall any or both; of course, I tweak my outliner as described above, and I am writing this in order to make some developers think since ON’s idea was a very good one, just the implementation was sub-standard, and of course, any outliner developer could do similar but better.
As for “independent sidecars”, there is mainly that program I don’t remember the name but which is 20 (or now 25?)$, and regularly half-price on bits, and in which you put your “little bits”, by making it popping up onto your screen; here again, the integration of what you put into it, with the final target of this “item”, is not really “smart”, and how could it be, since here, we don’t even speak of the same developer (as in the ON case).
As for stickies, there are some, and some free ones, that can be used to a similar effect, and without wanting to appear nasty, fact is, when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$, and I would never have criticised such a tool that remains within the normal price range of its competitors; when it does not, AND claims false superiority, I think there’s need to defend the less complacent competition.
But I came here today to share some remark about Surfulater and tagging (hierarchies) vs. contextual hierarchies.
Posted by Gautam Jain
Nov 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Thanks @Simon Bolivar
@22111
>> As for stickies, there are some, and some free ones, that can be used to a similar effect, and without wanting to appear
>> nasty, fact is, when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
>> and I would never have criticised such a tool that remains within the normal price range of its competitors; when it does not,
>> AND claims false superiority, I think there’s need to defend the less complacent competition.
It is very hard to compare the value of one software to another. The price of one to another unless it is an exact copy of features & user-interface. Different vendors have different business models. Some are ready to give away the software for free hoping to get investment from another company. We have seen that for several years they have negative revenues. Some close down. And some continue to survive. Most of the freebies developed by individual developers (not open source) discontinue to support the product due to lack of income or the developer gets interested into another profitable business/job.
>> when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
This is only a temporary offer done for marketing. It is not a permanent thing. Although companies may not gain anything in terms of revenue, but they get more popularity.
Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective.
The product is always available for free trial (full 30 days). So the user can actually see what “Anything” means. I am sorry if had to purchase the product without giving it a try or reading anything about it.
I really appreciate your concerns. It gives us a chance to correct ourselves. May be we must put a * (astreisk) after “Anything” and say “Conditions apply”.
Regards,
Gautam Jain
http://www.conceptworld.com/Notezilla
Posted by 22111
Nov 23, 2013 at 05:25 PM
Posted by Gautam Jain
Nov 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Thanks @Simon Bolivar
@22111
>> As for stickies, there are some, and some free ones, that can be used to a similar effect, and without wanting to appear
>> nasty, fact is, when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
>> and I would never have criticised such a tool that remains within the normal price range of its competitors; when it does not,
>> AND claims false superiority, I think there’s need to defend the less complacent competition.
It is very hard to compare the value of one software to another. The price of one to another unless it is an exact copy of features & user-interface. Different vendors have different business models. Some are ready to give away the software for free hoping to get investment from another company. We have seen that for several years they have negative revenues. Some close down. And some continue to survive. Most of the freebies developed by individual developers (not open source) discontinue to support the product due to lack of income or the developer gets interested into another profitable business/job.
>> when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
This is only a temporary offer done for marketing. It is not a permanent thing. Although companies may not gain anything in terms of revenue, but they get more popularity.
Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective.
The product is always available for free trial (full 30 days). So the user can actually see what “Anything” means. I am sorry if had to purchase the product without giving it a try or reading anything about it.
I really appreciate your concerns. It gives us a chance to correct ourselves. May be we must put a * (astreisk) after “Anything” and say “Conditions apply”.
Gautam,
as you know, this forum, for technical reasons (“lack of development”, but graphically, it’s very appealing, which those dedicated, standard “forum sw’s” are not), does not allow editing, so I cannot mitigate some terms employed. But what I can say is that I like your style, you defend your baby; I’d do the same, same style - so no wonder I like that! (And there is no condescendance in what I say.)
“Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective.” - We both know that again, you try to manipulate the reader, right? I do really LOVE that foil fencing! But I’m always willing to say the adversary is right when he is, and it goes without saying that we both know that people who give away their software, ain’t so smart after all, in general. Sometimes, I understand that they want to create “credentials” for themselves, and for their chances to get good jobs, but more often than not, they already GOT such jobs, and then, I appreciate their technical know-how, but I don’t understand their (non-) “marketing” approach.
As we both know, I’m not lying when I say that most such stickies software is either free or “given away” for just some dollars, and of course, that “defines” a market, bot I would never give away my software for some 5 or 10 bucks, and I understand perfectly well that you want to be paid 30 dollars apiece; I would do as you do.
Now where we differ, if I may say so, is in the marketing approach: I would indeed try to “live up” to my claims, and of course I would strive to what you claim: I would try to include almost “anything reasonable” within the “target scope” of my product, and even beyond, i.e. I would even try to glue the stickies to things I would know beforehand that market-wise, my efforts would not that be fruitful, just for knowing myself I “did it”.
Which means, I would not want to give away my product for (almost) free, but on the other hand, I would seriously try, and without counting the hours of work going into such efforts, to make it really superior.
If I understand well what you are trying, you are going such a way, but in a direction I would not follow: If I understand well your intentions, you are currently optimizing the access TO your program, whilst I would work on my program getting access to a max of targets: Because there is a real need to have METADATA to “anything”, when on the other hand, MS try to minimize that metadata functionality, just compare ADF having been possible with XP, and what is left to be possible now, with their (later, and current) file systems, and what xplorer2 and Directory Opus try do do, within the file system, more or less ancient standards, and what XYplorer tries to do, with its proprietary format; it is evident that any metadata possibilities within the NTFS file systems are highly welcome, and would be more than appreciated, and all the more so if the user is able to glue metadata do “records”, and not only “databases”, i.e. pages, items, elements, not just files - HERE would be my point of interest, as a developer, consistently, and not within the development of my stickies sw as some “information management system” (IMS) of its own (as I think you are currently trying to develop it) - again, I’m not writing here as a would-be undertaker, but as a “benevolent critic”, i.e. as constructive as I could be (and without any condescendence).
You must know that without being a programmer myself, I’ve designed and programmed one of the “earlier” and state-of-the-art IMS (in the second half of the Nineties), and I’ll do another one within the years to come, this time buying expertise from real programmers, and that I am writing in this forum in order to further general IMS development; of course, it would have been preferable that any real IT expert, WITH the “necessary” programming background, took this role, but fact is, worldwide there is NOBODY, among the real experts, today who’s willing to think about IM, AND who’s willing to share his findings - they all work for some high-paying, big “players”, in which organizations they probably develop futher advancements in big-corporate software (IBM, SAP, MS, Oracle, and you name them) - all this will NOT come to any fruit for mom-and-pop “corporations” or individuals, all the less so since current development in “IMS-for-individuals” (or restraint networks) has almost come to a standstill for several years now - so this forum serves me to share “new” ideas (that might have already been realized within corporate sw but which has not yet applied to sw for the “general public”), and sometimes, I get a little bit nasty when I think I somebody who claims superiority to his dedicated market, without living up to his relevant claims - but as said, this is uttered with a constructive mind (which was lost on people like MyInfo’s and Ultra Recall’s developers I’ve to say, not speaking of the TheBrain people), and I would be DELIGHTED if you, Gautam, tried to seriously enlarge your “target” “fishpond”, and your price, 30 times the price your “free” competitors (if you count their free offerings for “1 dollar” each), would be more than justified.
As insinuated before, if I were you, I would begin by glueing my stickies to OL mails: There are at least 2 competitors who do it, currently, and they both charge 30 or even now 40 dollars each for their “specialist” offerings - when Notezilla then would do this, as they do, but by offering a much larger target range than they do - you imagine the market value of this for Notezilla, I’m certain!
In the meanwhile, I’d claim something like “to almost everything*” - *= and we strive seriously to include anything else as soon as possible!” - “at this point in time, our stickies’ targets include -x, -y, -z…” (and yes, including Excel cells would be a tremendous marketing idea, too!) ;-)
Kind Regards,
Fred
Posted by 22111
Nov 23, 2013 at 05:28 PM
Sorry to all, I reprimanded others here, in the past, for doing unnecessary full citations - now I did this myself, just for ease of citation… then I missed the deletion. Chris, what about doing some additional programming here? Either for viewing previous posts, or for editing your own… or perhaps, even both? ;-)