Sticky notes for Windows - Notezilla
Started by Gautam Jain
on 11/15/2013
Gautam Jain
11/15/2013 9:34 am
Hello all,
I noticed many users in this forum love Notezilla sticky notes app - http://www.conceptworld.com/Notezilla .
I am the creator of Notezilla. Just thought to say hello! to every one.
Recently we launched new version of Notezilla - version 8 with more outlining feature.
To learn what's new in the new version - http://www.conceptworld.com/Notezilla/WhatsNew
Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions. I am here to help.
Regards,
Gautam Jain
Daly de Gagne
11/15/2013 9:22 pm
Gautam, I appreciate seeing your post here.
Coincidentally, I purchased Notezilla, version 8, within the last few weeks. I think the program has evolved well, and I certainly enjoy using it.
Thank you.
Daly
Gautam Jain wrote:
Coincidentally, I purchased Notezilla, version 8, within the last few weeks. I think the program has evolved well, and I certainly enjoy using it.
Thank you.
Daly
Gautam Jain wrote:
Hello all,
I noticed many users in this forum love Notezilla sticky notes app -
http://www.conceptworld.com/Notezilla .
I am the creator of Notezilla. Just thought to say hello! to every one.
Recently we launched new version of Notezilla - version 8 with more
outlining feature.
To learn what's new in the new version -
http://www.conceptworld.com/Notezilla/WhatsNew
Thanks. Let me know if you have any questions. I am here to help.
Regards,
Gautam Jain
22111
11/17/2013 9:15 pm
Purchased Notezilla lately? On bits, 40 p.c. off? Well, I don't think it's worth 60 p.c. of 30$ - from what I know about it, I wouldn't want it for free.
I trialled it some years ago, together with more than a dozen competitors. I remember that it was really expensive, but didn't offer anything outstanding to justify the price difference, neither with lesser-priced competitors nor with free ones.
In fact, I preferred one of those, and I would have even if all of them (incl. Notezilla) were free - but I did not even install the preferred one, since I got aware the concept of screen "post-it's" is/seems to be ridiculous (see below since we are some years later now, so I could be mistaken NOW).
Let's begin with the "mimick a physical thing" concept: That's ridiculous to begin with, and the old men here will remember those early electronic PIM's mimicking a physical A6 ring binder agenda - they quickly died. I even remember one outliner that had / continues to have such a screen layout / background image (especially for you, I had a look in my archives: it can be seen here: http://www.tgslabs.com/en/winorganizer/screenshots/ - this is really terrible even if they don't "overdo" it as much as some of those early electronic agendas did it). So it seems nobody wants this in PIM's - but then, why would you want such mimicry with screen stickies?
Especially when with outliners (and a good workflow, i.e. a good system to work in and with them) it should be easy to have an inbox / several inboxes, AND totally easy access to them, "from anywhere"... and even in the background, i.e. with a correct setting, ANY possible outliner should receive a short note, by way of display of a text entry dialogue popping up anywhere, and store it to (at least) ONE OF SEVERAL targets (= as child of those targets), e.g. in the form control-F12 popping up this:
"Your Note please here:" and you would input:
"pw.I MUST kill my wife as soon as possible, I simply can't bear it (sic) anymore!" Enter
And the popup would vanish again, and in the background, in ANY outliner, your note would become a child of the parent item "Wife" in the section "Private" of your outliner - without this outliner popping up if you only have a single screen where it is hidden by some other application.
THAT's the way outliner people should process their "little things in-between" (in our above example, please distinguish between idea = little thing, and its possible execution, which would perhaps ask for a special, additional outline for all possible details), and not by multiplying ugly stickies... which on top of it, can be "tagged". Gautam, stickies should not BE tagged, they are there TO tag, see?
Now Gautam claims, "Stick notes to Anything.", the "anything" being capitalized and italicised, and this claim is the third line on his homepage today.
Now my trialling has been several years ago, and Notezilla stickies stuck to "anything", they would not come cheap at 30$, but their price would be justified. So let's see:
1 - What about putting a sticky to an Excel table? Popping up whenever you open that table? Ok? Good.
2 - Now, how about putting a sticky to some CELL on that Excel table, and another one to another cell of it? Ok. Very good.
3 - And now, how about putting a sticky to some Outlook mail, popping up whenever you display that mail? Ok? Tremendous.
4 - And now, how about those aforementioned stickies popping up on any system where you open those files, and where Notezilla is installed? Wow!
5 - And finally, ditto but where Notezilla isn't installed even? Perfect!
So I tried to find out, by our false-friend google... well... I'm not sure at all.
Now, perhaps items 4 and 5 are just wishful thinking, but tasks 1, 2 and 3 should be easy (cf. Gautam's prominent claim above)... or does he give big lies within the third line of his homepage?
(And yes, I know there are paid "specialists" for putting stickies to OL mails, but that's not the point. If I charge 30$ (= in Europe, about 30€) and (verbally and graphically) insist on my stickies to stick to ANYTHING, I must be aware that my user expects to NOT have to buy additional software to stick notes even to files / records to which my stickies do NOT stick.)
But as said, if Notezilla does do the tasks 1, 2, 3 (and perhaps even 4 or even 5), it's well worth its money. But that remains to be seen.
I trialled it some years ago, together with more than a dozen competitors. I remember that it was really expensive, but didn't offer anything outstanding to justify the price difference, neither with lesser-priced competitors nor with free ones.
In fact, I preferred one of those, and I would have even if all of them (incl. Notezilla) were free - but I did not even install the preferred one, since I got aware the concept of screen "post-it's" is/seems to be ridiculous (see below since we are some years later now, so I could be mistaken NOW).
Let's begin with the "mimick a physical thing" concept: That's ridiculous to begin with, and the old men here will remember those early electronic PIM's mimicking a physical A6 ring binder agenda - they quickly died. I even remember one outliner that had / continues to have such a screen layout / background image (especially for you, I had a look in my archives: it can be seen here: http://www.tgslabs.com/en/winorganizer/screenshots/ - this is really terrible even if they don't "overdo" it as much as some of those early electronic agendas did it). So it seems nobody wants this in PIM's - but then, why would you want such mimicry with screen stickies?
Especially when with outliners (and a good workflow, i.e. a good system to work in and with them) it should be easy to have an inbox / several inboxes, AND totally easy access to them, "from anywhere"... and even in the background, i.e. with a correct setting, ANY possible outliner should receive a short note, by way of display of a text entry dialogue popping up anywhere, and store it to (at least) ONE OF SEVERAL targets (= as child of those targets), e.g. in the form control-F12 popping up this:
"Your Note please here:" and you would input:
"pw.I MUST kill my wife as soon as possible, I simply can't bear it (sic) anymore!" Enter
And the popup would vanish again, and in the background, in ANY outliner, your note would become a child of the parent item "Wife" in the section "Private" of your outliner - without this outliner popping up if you only have a single screen where it is hidden by some other application.
THAT's the way outliner people should process their "little things in-between" (in our above example, please distinguish between idea = little thing, and its possible execution, which would perhaps ask for a special, additional outline for all possible details), and not by multiplying ugly stickies... which on top of it, can be "tagged". Gautam, stickies should not BE tagged, they are there TO tag, see?
Now Gautam claims, "Stick notes to Anything.", the "anything" being capitalized and italicised, and this claim is the third line on his homepage today.
Now my trialling has been several years ago, and Notezilla stickies stuck to "anything", they would not come cheap at 30$, but their price would be justified. So let's see:
1 - What about putting a sticky to an Excel table? Popping up whenever you open that table? Ok? Good.
2 - Now, how about putting a sticky to some CELL on that Excel table, and another one to another cell of it? Ok. Very good.
3 - And now, how about putting a sticky to some Outlook mail, popping up whenever you display that mail? Ok? Tremendous.
4 - And now, how about those aforementioned stickies popping up on any system where you open those files, and where Notezilla is installed? Wow!
5 - And finally, ditto but where Notezilla isn't installed even? Perfect!
So I tried to find out, by our false-friend google... well... I'm not sure at all.
Now, perhaps items 4 and 5 are just wishful thinking, but tasks 1, 2 and 3 should be easy (cf. Gautam's prominent claim above)... or does he give big lies within the third line of his homepage?
(And yes, I know there are paid "specialists" for putting stickies to OL mails, but that's not the point. If I charge 30$ (= in Europe, about 30€) and (verbally and graphically) insist on my stickies to stick to ANYTHING, I must be aware that my user expects to NOT have to buy additional software to stick notes even to files / records to which my stickies do NOT stick.)
But as said, if Notezilla does do the tasks 1, 2, 3 (and perhaps even 4 or even 5), it's well worth its money. But that remains to be seen.
22111
11/17/2013 9:21 pm
P.S. And no, I didn't ask for putting stickies to single items in your outliner, or then, to single records in your Access or askSam database - I think that is really exotic, and would thus not reasonably be covered by Gautam's "Anything" claim. But both Excel cells and Outlook mails should be covered indeed, or it's a grossly false claim.
Gautam Jain
11/18/2013 11:48 am
Thanks @Daly de Gagne for sharing your positive experience.
Thanks @22111 for your detailed reply. Really appreciate the time you took to express you expectation.
It would be really nice to have Notezilla stick notes to an Excel cell or an Outlook email. We do have that as one of our goals. Just looking into technical feasibility. Really nice to have you remind us of this.
Regarding the "Stick notes to anything" term on our website, I would compare this to a mobile network that claims that you are connected to their network where ever you go in the whole world. But everyone also understands that it is not possible. They know that there would be limitation of the network. So everyone accepts it and do not consider it as "cheating".
Another example. If Evernote says "Remember Everything", one may ask, why it cannot remember all the files & folders on my hard-drive. Because it says "Everything".
Basically, it is all about everyone's needs & expectations. If Notezilla fits their needs, they buy it. If not, they don't. We are thankful to thousands of customers who have accepted Notezilla & help us build a better product.
Paul Korm
11/18/2013 2:01 pm
Thank you for your patience, Gautam. I appreciate independent developers who reach out to potential customers for candid opinions -- it is a skill that's frequently lost in the big commercial development shops.
22111
11/18/2013 5:05 pm
"If Notezilla fits their needs, they buy it. If not, they don’t."
Or sometimes, they buy because they trust your very prominent marketing speak. As said in my PS, there's a difference between exotic "locations" and standard ones, and the latter should be included by the term "anywhere", or in this case, "anything".
On a technical level, this would very probably mean diving into the particular programs, and do particular things there, and which is another reason for users not being entitled to take such claims verbally - but then, I did not. Standard software should be accessible for notes if you pay 30$ for this, when numerous competitors don't charge anything.
I don't know how you do it, and you will not tell us, but it seems evident ADS tweaking would only be possible for notes on whole files, so there would have to be done some identification work of the db records of such target software in order to then find a way to glue notes to these inner elements.
For Outlook at least, there are several such notes tools that do it, for Excel there is at least one. And technically, it should be possible to do it for Access or UR/EN/SQLite.
And no, "EN will remember anything for you" or similar is quite different from "Our stickies glue to anything" or similar, the former assertion being identifiable as a synonym for "EN will find it for you, you will not have to remember every thing's place in your head anymore", whilst the inability to glue notes to standard pieces of today's pc workflow makes the latter one just one of all those lies overpriced goods are sold with, it's a classic. And no, nobody would ask Wifi software "connecting you everywhere to your data" to work in the Australian desert, without Wifi connection, but everybody would indeed think it worked in any standard Wifi spot and not in a just some, and this is what your "argumentation" tries to blurr. We ain't all idiots.
Or sometimes, they buy because they trust your very prominent marketing speak. As said in my PS, there's a difference between exotic "locations" and standard ones, and the latter should be included by the term "anywhere", or in this case, "anything".
On a technical level, this would very probably mean diving into the particular programs, and do particular things there, and which is another reason for users not being entitled to take such claims verbally - but then, I did not. Standard software should be accessible for notes if you pay 30$ for this, when numerous competitors don't charge anything.
I don't know how you do it, and you will not tell us, but it seems evident ADS tweaking would only be possible for notes on whole files, so there would have to be done some identification work of the db records of such target software in order to then find a way to glue notes to these inner elements.
For Outlook at least, there are several such notes tools that do it, for Excel there is at least one. And technically, it should be possible to do it for Access or UR/EN/SQLite.
And no, "EN will remember anything for you" or similar is quite different from "Our stickies glue to anything" or similar, the former assertion being identifiable as a synonym for "EN will find it for you, you will not have to remember every thing's place in your head anymore", whilst the inability to glue notes to standard pieces of today's pc workflow makes the latter one just one of all those lies overpriced goods are sold with, it's a classic. And no, nobody would ask Wifi software "connecting you everywhere to your data" to work in the Australian desert, without Wifi connection, but everybody would indeed think it worked in any standard Wifi spot and not in a just some, and this is what your "argumentation" tries to blurr. We ain't all idiots.
tightbeam
11/18/2013 5:27 pm
I don't feel "cheated" by Notezilla. It's quality software, and the developer (Gautam) gets points for his polite, helpful reply to needlessly rude comments.
Daly de Gagne
11/20/2013 3:47 pm
I have used Notezilla off and on over the years. During the time I'm familiar with it the developer has added new features and enhanced functioning. Making a broadside statement about what one would or wouldn't pay for it based on a product trial from the past is not fair.
My own use of Notezilla is for very quick note-taking, for keeping information at top of mind, or for assisting me when I'm working in another program.
The other day, for example, I was a guest on a Twitter chat (#ABIChat) which focuses on acquired (traumatic) brain injury. My topic was ABI and PTSD. Prior to the chat I had one note pinned next to my Twitter client with some factual points I knew I'd probably use, and which I wanted to ensure were accurate. Dropping this information into the chat was a simple copy/paste.
I had one other note pinned alongside the first one listing information related to a couple of books. As it turned out I only used information from one book. If I hadn't been glued to the television watching the antics of the Ford brothers in Toronto I probably would have pre-written two or three tweets on a third pinned note for use at the beginning of the chat.
Notezilla is a non-obtrusive, easy to use, note taker and holder of information. It doesn't replace my use of EverNote, MyInfo, or WhizFolders. It fills a specific niche more easily and rapidly than any of the other programs I use.
At the earliest stage of writing I use Notezilla because it's very simple, non-distracting, and fast. Using it this way enables me to work through writer's block.
The use of memoboards, each one devoted to a particular topic, can help to consolidate information related to a current project or issue, cleanly and efficiently. Again, this is quite helpful if you want to isolate a subset of information in a way which offers an efficient customize view of it.
Sometimes I make a memoboard layout of facts & figures I want to remember, returning to this particular information repeatedly so that I commit it to memory.
I bought the new version when if was recently offered on Bits, and consider it excellenet value.
Daly
My own use of Notezilla is for very quick note-taking, for keeping information at top of mind, or for assisting me when I'm working in another program.
The other day, for example, I was a guest on a Twitter chat (#ABIChat) which focuses on acquired (traumatic) brain injury. My topic was ABI and PTSD. Prior to the chat I had one note pinned next to my Twitter client with some factual points I knew I'd probably use, and which I wanted to ensure were accurate. Dropping this information into the chat was a simple copy/paste.
I had one other note pinned alongside the first one listing information related to a couple of books. As it turned out I only used information from one book. If I hadn't been glued to the television watching the antics of the Ford brothers in Toronto I probably would have pre-written two or three tweets on a third pinned note for use at the beginning of the chat.
Notezilla is a non-obtrusive, easy to use, note taker and holder of information. It doesn't replace my use of EverNote, MyInfo, or WhizFolders. It fills a specific niche more easily and rapidly than any of the other programs I use.
At the earliest stage of writing I use Notezilla because it's very simple, non-distracting, and fast. Using it this way enables me to work through writer's block.
The use of memoboards, each one devoted to a particular topic, can help to consolidate information related to a current project or issue, cleanly and efficiently. Again, this is quite helpful if you want to isolate a subset of information in a way which offers an efficient customize view of it.
Sometimes I make a memoboard layout of facts & figures I want to remember, returning to this particular information repeatedly so that I commit it to memory.
I bought the new version when if was recently offered on Bits, and consider it excellenet value.
Daly
Gautam Jain
11/21/2013 10:31 am
Thanks @Daly de Gagne on your Notezilla review with complete clarity
Regards,
Gautam Jain
http://www.conceptworld.com/Notezilla
Simon Bolivar
11/21/2013 3:40 pm
@Gautam Jain,
I'm not looking for a sticky note product right now but thanks for speaking about your software on this forum and making us all aware of it, most of us appreciate your patience and good manners.
I'm not looking for a sticky note product right now but thanks for speaking about your software on this forum and making us all aware of it, most of us appreciate your patience and good manners.
22111
11/21/2013 3:52 pm
"It doesn’t replace my use of EverNote, MyInfo, or WhizFolders. It fills a specific niche more easily and rapidly than any of the other programs I use."
I perfectly understand this, but the problem, again, lies in the relative non-accessability of those programs for just (half of) a (single) sentence, cf. above what you can do with macros/scripting, for any such program, but at the condition of course that it is running in the background, but I suppose ONE of those programs at least IS running whenever your pc is on.
As OneNote users will remember (and possible in its current version it's the same thing; I am speaking of version 3, or was it 2? No, it was version "2003", part of that "Office" package, or then, ON 2 was part of Office 2003, whatever), it had a sidecar tool for exactly this function, and that tool even ran when ON was not running. But then, the integration of this sidecar tool with the main program left much to be desired, and I finished by deleting my "free" copy of ON, first (since at the time, there was even less possible "hierarchy" in ON that there is today), and after some months, I also deleted the sidecar tool from my pc(s), and I have never been tempted to reinstall any or both; of course, I tweak my outliner as described above, and I am writing this in order to make some developers think since ON's idea was a very good one, just the implementation was sub-standard, and of course, any outliner developer could do similar but better.
As for "independent sidecars", there is mainly that program I don't remember the name but which is 20 (or now 25?)$, and regularly half-price on bits, and in which you put your "little bits", by making it popping up onto your screen; here again, the integration of what you put into it, with the final target of this "item", is not really "smart", and how could it be, since here, we don't even speak of the same developer (as in the ON case).
As for stickies, there are some, and some free ones, that can be used to a similar effect, and without wanting to appear nasty, fact is, when it's 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price "going into development" is about 10$, and I would never have criticised such a tool that remains within the normal price range of its competitors; when it does not, AND claims false superiority, I think there's need to defend the less complacent competition.
But I came here today to share some remark about Surfulater and tagging (hierarchies) vs. contextual hierarchies.
I perfectly understand this, but the problem, again, lies in the relative non-accessability of those programs for just (half of) a (single) sentence, cf. above what you can do with macros/scripting, for any such program, but at the condition of course that it is running in the background, but I suppose ONE of those programs at least IS running whenever your pc is on.
As OneNote users will remember (and possible in its current version it's the same thing; I am speaking of version 3, or was it 2? No, it was version "2003", part of that "Office" package, or then, ON 2 was part of Office 2003, whatever), it had a sidecar tool for exactly this function, and that tool even ran when ON was not running. But then, the integration of this sidecar tool with the main program left much to be desired, and I finished by deleting my "free" copy of ON, first (since at the time, there was even less possible "hierarchy" in ON that there is today), and after some months, I also deleted the sidecar tool from my pc(s), and I have never been tempted to reinstall any or both; of course, I tweak my outliner as described above, and I am writing this in order to make some developers think since ON's idea was a very good one, just the implementation was sub-standard, and of course, any outliner developer could do similar but better.
As for "independent sidecars", there is mainly that program I don't remember the name but which is 20 (or now 25?)$, and regularly half-price on bits, and in which you put your "little bits", by making it popping up onto your screen; here again, the integration of what you put into it, with the final target of this "item", is not really "smart", and how could it be, since here, we don't even speak of the same developer (as in the ON case).
As for stickies, there are some, and some free ones, that can be used to a similar effect, and without wanting to appear nasty, fact is, when it's 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price "going into development" is about 10$, and I would never have criticised such a tool that remains within the normal price range of its competitors; when it does not, AND claims false superiority, I think there's need to defend the less complacent competition.
But I came here today to share some remark about Surfulater and tagging (hierarchies) vs. contextual hierarchies.
Gautam Jain
11/22/2013 10:01 am
Thanks @Simon Bolivar
@22111
> As for stickies, there are some, and some free ones, that can be used to a similar effect, and without wanting to appear
> nasty, fact is, when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
> and I would never have criticised such a tool that remains within the normal price range of its competitors; when it does not,
> AND claims false superiority, I think there’s need to defend the less complacent competition.
It is very hard to compare the value of one software to another. The price of one to another unless it is an exact copy of features & user-interface. Different vendors have different business models. Some are ready to give away the software for free hoping to get investment from another company. We have seen that for several years they have negative revenues. Some close down. And some continue to survive. Most of the freebies developed by individual developers (not open source) discontinue to support the product due to lack of income or the developer gets interested into another profitable business/job.
> when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
This is only a temporary offer done for marketing. It is not a permanent thing. Although companies may not gain anything in terms of revenue, but they get more popularity.
Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective.
The product is always available for free trial (full 30 days). So the user can actually see what "Anything" means. I am sorry if had to purchase the product without giving it a try or reading anything about it.
I really appreciate your concerns. It gives us a chance to correct ourselves. May be we must put a * (astreisk) after "Anything" and say "Conditions apply".
Regards,
Gautam Jain
http://www.conceptworld.com/Notezilla
22111
11/23/2013 5:25 pm
Posted by Gautam Jain
Nov 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Thanks @Simon Bolivar
@22111
It is very hard to compare the value of one software to another. The price of one to another unless it is an exact copy of features & user-interface. Different vendors have different business models. Some are ready to give away the software for free hoping to get investment from another company. We have seen that for several years they have negative revenues. Some close down. And some continue to survive. Most of the freebies developed by individual developers (not open source) discontinue to support the product due to lack of income or the developer gets interested into another profitable business/job.
This is only a temporary offer done for marketing. It is not a permanent thing. Although companies may not gain anything in terms of revenue, but they get more popularity.
Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective.
The product is always available for free trial (full 30 days). So the user can actually see what “Anything” means. I am sorry if had to purchase the product without giving it a try or reading anything about it.
I really appreciate your concerns. It gives us a chance to correct ourselves. May be we must put a * (astreisk) after “Anything” and say “Conditions apply”.
Gautam,
as you know, this forum, for technical reasons ("lack of development", but graphically, it's very appealing, which those dedicated, standard "forum sw's" are not), does not allow editing, so I cannot mitigate some terms employed. But what I can say is that I like your style, you defend your baby; I'd do the same, same style - so no wonder I like that! (And there is no condescendance in what I say.)
"Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective." - We both know that again, you try to manipulate the reader, right? I do really LOVE that foil fencing! But I'm always willing to say the adversary is right when he is, and it goes without saying that we both know that people who give away their software, ain't so smart after all, in general. Sometimes, I understand that they want to create "credentials" for themselves, and for their chances to get good jobs, but more often than not, they already GOT such jobs, and then, I appreciate their technical know-how, but I don't understand their (non-) "marketing" approach.
As we both know, I'm not lying when I say that most such stickies software is either free or "given away" for just some dollars, and of course, that "defines" a market, bot I would never give away my software for some 5 or 10 bucks, and I understand perfectly well that you want to be paid 30 dollars apiece; I would do as you do.
Now where we differ, if I may say so, is in the marketing approach: I would indeed try to "live up" to my claims, and of course I would strive to what you claim: I would try to include almost "anything reasonable" within the "target scope" of my product, and even beyond, i.e. I would even try to glue the stickies to things I would know beforehand that market-wise, my efforts would not that be fruitful, just for knowing myself I "did it".
Which means, I would not want to give away my product for (almost) free, but on the other hand, I would seriously try, and without counting the hours of work going into such efforts, to make it really superior.
If I understand well what you are trying, you are going such a way, but in a direction I would not follow: If I understand well your intentions, you are currently optimizing the access TO your program, whilst I would work on my program getting access to a max of targets: Because there is a real need to have METADATA to "anything", when on the other hand, MS try to minimize that metadata functionality, just compare ADF having been possible with XP, and what is left to be possible now, with their (later, and current) file systems, and what xplorer2 and Directory Opus try do do, within the file system, more or less ancient standards, and what XYplorer tries to do, with its proprietary format; it is evident that any metadata possibilities within the NTFS file systems are highly welcome, and would be more than appreciated, and all the more so if the user is able to glue metadata do "records", and not only "databases", i.e. pages, items, elements, not just files - HERE would be my point of interest, as a developer, consistently, and not within the development of my stickies sw as some "information management system" (IMS) of its own (as I think you are currently trying to develop it) - again, I'm not writing here as a would-be undertaker, but as a "benevolent critic", i.e. as constructive as I could be (and without any condescendence).
You must know that without being a programmer myself, I've designed and programmed one of the "earlier" and state-of-the-art IMS (in the second half of the Nineties), and I'll do another one within the years to come, this time buying expertise from real programmers, and that I am writing in this forum in order to further general IMS development; of course, it would have been preferable that any real IT expert, WITH the "necessary" programming background, took this role, but fact is, worldwide there is NOBODY, among the real experts, today who's willing to think about IM, AND who's willing to share his findings - they all work for some high-paying, big "players", in which organizations they probably develop futher advancements in big-corporate software (IBM, SAP, MS, Oracle, and you name them) - all this will NOT come to any fruit for mom-and-pop "corporations" or individuals, all the less so since current development in "IMS-for-individuals" (or restraint networks) has almost come to a standstill for several years now - so this forum serves me to share "new" ideas (that might have already been realized within corporate sw but which has not yet applied to sw for the "general public"), and sometimes, I get a little bit nasty when I think I somebody who claims superiority to his dedicated market, without living up to his relevant claims - but as said, this is uttered with a constructive mind (which was lost on people like MyInfo's and Ultra Recall's developers I've to say, not speaking of the TheBrain people), and I would be DELIGHTED if you, Gautam, tried to seriously enlarge your "target" "fishpond", and your price, 30 times the price your "free" competitors (if you count their free offerings for "1 dollar" each), would be more than justified.
As insinuated before, if I were you, I would begin by glueing my stickies to OL mails: There are at least 2 competitors who do it, currently, and they both charge 30 or even now 40 dollars each for their "specialist" offerings - when Notezilla then would do this, as they do, but by offering a much larger target range than they do - you imagine the market value of this for Notezilla, I'm certain!
In the meanwhile, I'd claim something like "to almost everything*" - *= and we strive seriously to include anything else as soon as possible!" - "at this point in time, our stickies' targets include -x, -y, -z..." (and yes, including Excel cells would be a tremendous marketing idea, too!) ;-)
Kind Regards,
Fred
Nov 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Thanks @Simon Bolivar
@22111
> As for stickies, there are some, and some free ones, that can be used to a similar effect, and without wanting to appear
> nasty, fact is, when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
> and I would never have criticised such a tool that remains within the normal price range of its competitors; when it does not,
> AND claims false superiority, I think there’s need to defend the less complacent competition.
It is very hard to compare the value of one software to another. The price of one to another unless it is an exact copy of features & user-interface. Different vendors have different business models. Some are ready to give away the software for free hoping to get investment from another company. We have seen that for several years they have negative revenues. Some close down. And some continue to survive. Most of the freebies developed by individual developers (not open source) discontinue to support the product due to lack of income or the developer gets interested into another profitable business/job.
> when it’s 30$, on bits about 20, from which bits get 50 p.c., the real price “going into development” is about 10$,
This is only a temporary offer done for marketing. It is not a permanent thing. Although companies may not gain anything in terms of revenue, but they get more popularity.
Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective.
The product is always available for free trial (full 30 days). So the user can actually see what “Anything” means. I am sorry if had to purchase the product without giving it a try or reading anything about it.
I really appreciate your concerns. It gives us a chance to correct ourselves. May be we must put a * (astreisk) after “Anything” and say “Conditions apply”.
Gautam,
as you know, this forum, for technical reasons ("lack of development", but graphically, it's very appealing, which those dedicated, standard "forum sw's" are not), does not allow editing, so I cannot mitigate some terms employed. But what I can say is that I like your style, you defend your baby; I'd do the same, same style - so no wonder I like that! (And there is no condescendance in what I say.)
"Not able to afford $30 or $17.95 (after 40% off at BDJ) is very subjective." - We both know that again, you try to manipulate the reader, right? I do really LOVE that foil fencing! But I'm always willing to say the adversary is right when he is, and it goes without saying that we both know that people who give away their software, ain't so smart after all, in general. Sometimes, I understand that they want to create "credentials" for themselves, and for their chances to get good jobs, but more often than not, they already GOT such jobs, and then, I appreciate their technical know-how, but I don't understand their (non-) "marketing" approach.
As we both know, I'm not lying when I say that most such stickies software is either free or "given away" for just some dollars, and of course, that "defines" a market, bot I would never give away my software for some 5 or 10 bucks, and I understand perfectly well that you want to be paid 30 dollars apiece; I would do as you do.
Now where we differ, if I may say so, is in the marketing approach: I would indeed try to "live up" to my claims, and of course I would strive to what you claim: I would try to include almost "anything reasonable" within the "target scope" of my product, and even beyond, i.e. I would even try to glue the stickies to things I would know beforehand that market-wise, my efforts would not that be fruitful, just for knowing myself I "did it".
Which means, I would not want to give away my product for (almost) free, but on the other hand, I would seriously try, and without counting the hours of work going into such efforts, to make it really superior.
If I understand well what you are trying, you are going such a way, but in a direction I would not follow: If I understand well your intentions, you are currently optimizing the access TO your program, whilst I would work on my program getting access to a max of targets: Because there is a real need to have METADATA to "anything", when on the other hand, MS try to minimize that metadata functionality, just compare ADF having been possible with XP, and what is left to be possible now, with their (later, and current) file systems, and what xplorer2 and Directory Opus try do do, within the file system, more or less ancient standards, and what XYplorer tries to do, with its proprietary format; it is evident that any metadata possibilities within the NTFS file systems are highly welcome, and would be more than appreciated, and all the more so if the user is able to glue metadata do "records", and not only "databases", i.e. pages, items, elements, not just files - HERE would be my point of interest, as a developer, consistently, and not within the development of my stickies sw as some "information management system" (IMS) of its own (as I think you are currently trying to develop it) - again, I'm not writing here as a would-be undertaker, but as a "benevolent critic", i.e. as constructive as I could be (and without any condescendence).
You must know that without being a programmer myself, I've designed and programmed one of the "earlier" and state-of-the-art IMS (in the second half of the Nineties), and I'll do another one within the years to come, this time buying expertise from real programmers, and that I am writing in this forum in order to further general IMS development; of course, it would have been preferable that any real IT expert, WITH the "necessary" programming background, took this role, but fact is, worldwide there is NOBODY, among the real experts, today who's willing to think about IM, AND who's willing to share his findings - they all work for some high-paying, big "players", in which organizations they probably develop futher advancements in big-corporate software (IBM, SAP, MS, Oracle, and you name them) - all this will NOT come to any fruit for mom-and-pop "corporations" or individuals, all the less so since current development in "IMS-for-individuals" (or restraint networks) has almost come to a standstill for several years now - so this forum serves me to share "new" ideas (that might have already been realized within corporate sw but which has not yet applied to sw for the "general public"), and sometimes, I get a little bit nasty when I think I somebody who claims superiority to his dedicated market, without living up to his relevant claims - but as said, this is uttered with a constructive mind (which was lost on people like MyInfo's and Ultra Recall's developers I've to say, not speaking of the TheBrain people), and I would be DELIGHTED if you, Gautam, tried to seriously enlarge your "target" "fishpond", and your price, 30 times the price your "free" competitors (if you count their free offerings for "1 dollar" each), would be more than justified.
As insinuated before, if I were you, I would begin by glueing my stickies to OL mails: There are at least 2 competitors who do it, currently, and they both charge 30 or even now 40 dollars each for their "specialist" offerings - when Notezilla then would do this, as they do, but by offering a much larger target range than they do - you imagine the market value of this for Notezilla, I'm certain!
In the meanwhile, I'd claim something like "to almost everything*" - *= and we strive seriously to include anything else as soon as possible!" - "at this point in time, our stickies' targets include -x, -y, -z..." (and yes, including Excel cells would be a tremendous marketing idea, too!) ;-)
Kind Regards,
Fred
22111
11/23/2013 5:28 pm
Sorry to all, I reprimanded others here, in the past, for doing unnecessary full citations - now I did this myself, just for ease of citation... then I missed the deletion. Chris, what about doing some additional programming here? Either for viewing previous posts, or for editing your own... or perhaps, even both? ;-)