Old software I can't do without
Started by Magenda
on 11/7/2013
Magenda
11/7/2013 3:26 am
Notemap2
I know there are members of this forum who have been severely damaged by this program, but I have not been hit by the fatal bug that loses data.
My problem is I hate so many things about this program. The way it handles opening and saving files for example. This can be critical as I often use files as templates for other files, and if I am shutting the program down with many open windows, and I make a wrong click on the offered "save changes to file.cnm,?" prompt, I may lose hours or work.
There is so much not fun about the program. After many years, I have finally pretty much wrested control of fonts from the program to me. Still there are innumerable uglinesses.
It handles headers and footers well, which is what I need, and it lets me put the name of the file in the header, which is vital for what I do.
Cut and paste and print are both horrible. If I select a note, there is no way I have found not to cut it without also taking it's children with it. There is no way to select those children that I want to print that I have found.
I would love to have a single page outliner that handled printing with headers and footers well, and let me select which children, which branches of the outline, I wanted to print, or to copy. I want to create big templates and chose what I need to create particular documents,
Anyone have an answer? Thanks for your consideration!
I know there are members of this forum who have been severely damaged by this program, but I have not been hit by the fatal bug that loses data.
My problem is I hate so many things about this program. The way it handles opening and saving files for example. This can be critical as I often use files as templates for other files, and if I am shutting the program down with many open windows, and I make a wrong click on the offered "save changes to file.cnm,?" prompt, I may lose hours or work.
There is so much not fun about the program. After many years, I have finally pretty much wrested control of fonts from the program to me. Still there are innumerable uglinesses.
It handles headers and footers well, which is what I need, and it lets me put the name of the file in the header, which is vital for what I do.
Cut and paste and print are both horrible. If I select a note, there is no way I have found not to cut it without also taking it's children with it. There is no way to select those children that I want to print that I have found.
I would love to have a single page outliner that handled printing with headers and footers well, and let me select which children, which branches of the outline, I wanted to print, or to copy. I want to create big templates and chose what I need to create particular documents,
Anyone have an answer? Thanks for your consideration!
jimspoon
11/7/2013 7:12 am
there's always ecco pro!
check out these print dialogs to see if they look suitable:
http://i.imgur.com/DsbM71m.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FekKKKS.jpg
check out these print dialogs to see if they look suitable:
http://i.imgur.com/DsbM71m.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/FekKKKS.jpg
Dr Andus
11/7/2013 10:36 am
Magenda wrote:
Notemap2 would have been also top of my list for writing as a single-pane outliner with inline notes, were it not for the problems you mention. I settled on Outline 4D as the next best thing and have been reasonably happy with it.
O4D does have a bit of a learning curve. I recommend reading through at least the reference card they provide (the manual is useful as well).
I believe it can do most of the things you mentioned.
Negatives:
I had to switch off UAC on my Win7, 64-bit system, to get around the annoying Windows pop-up (I heard of other ways to get around UAC but switching off was the easiest and I don't miss it).
It does crash on very rare occasions when a) I fiddle with some obscure settings in "Document Settings" or "O4D Options" and then get back to the main document, and b) when I have too many of its windows open in its MDI. But I've never lost any data because I save obsessively and you can also set an automatic reminder to save with it.
Notemap2
Anyone have an answer?
Notemap2 would have been also top of my list for writing as a single-pane outliner with inline notes, were it not for the problems you mention. I settled on Outline 4D as the next best thing and have been reasonably happy with it.
O4D does have a bit of a learning curve. I recommend reading through at least the reference card they provide (the manual is useful as well).
I believe it can do most of the things you mentioned.
Negatives:
I had to switch off UAC on my Win7, 64-bit system, to get around the annoying Windows pop-up (I heard of other ways to get around UAC but switching off was the easiest and I don't miss it).
It does crash on very rare occasions when a) I fiddle with some obscure settings in "Document Settings" or "O4D Options" and then get back to the main document, and b) when I have too many of its windows open in its MDI. But I've never lost any data because I save obsessively and you can also set an automatic reminder to save with it.