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Posted by jimspoon
Oct 8, 2013 at 09:28 PM
haven’t really examined the new features yet but I know our intrepid outliner afficianados will quickly dissect it.
Posted by Paul Korm
Oct 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM
Evernote 5 has been around for Mac for a while (currently on v5.4). The Windows version is very similar, but some Mac features are not yet present. The most obvious of these is the full-screen “Presentation” mode that came along in the most recent Mac release.
There is lots of change to the chrome in Evernote 5 on Windows—most of which is welcome, and I feel this makes the interface more pleasant to work in. I thought the “Reminders” feature would be useful. One can ask Evernote to nudge you to read an entry in a day, a week, or some future date. In my experience, as it turns out this is just one more todo list and I don’t need more todo lists ;-)
The new similar-note suggestions are helpful. The most powerful change is that search is much smarter—for example, search results dynamically narrowing down or expanding as words (even partial words) are typed in the search box.
Posted by 22111
Oct 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM
So I looked to their preposterous video. So…
- I understand its facilities of data entry are outstanding (ocr out of pictures, etc., many such functions have been mentioned here, and I’m impressed)
- I see its layout is very pleasant (and that’s important, too)
- I see it has got some similitude to OneNote (from the above, and from the lacking “depth” of indentation levels)
- Now I perfectly understand that people with some “leisure tasks” will be very pleased by this program, that’s obvious
- But let’s say you have 10,000 items, then EN must be a nightmare?
- It has been said here (I think) that EN offers a tag TREE - in their video, I just can see flat lists of tags?
- Let’s put my question this way: How do you switch around between multiple “notebooks”, how many indentation levels do you have within such a “notebook” (not counting the unique “source” item if there is one)? How do you navigate fast and in a reliable way? Do you rely on tagging, search? Or did I not grasp any feature making all this much easier than I imagine from the outside?
Posted by Paul Korm
Oct 9, 2013 at 02:51 AM
22111 wrote:
>- But let’s say you have 10,000 items, then EN must be a nightmare?
Yes, I’d think it would be. Evernote is not the tool for that kind of volume, or for the other features you mention.
>- It has been said here (I think) that EN offers a tag TREE - in their
>video, I just can see flat lists of tags?
Tags can be nested, thus
Tag A
.....Tag B
..........Tag C
but there’s not much point to it since there is no tag inheritance (notes with Tag C do not also inherit Tag A and Tag B)
>- Let’s put my question this way: How do you switch around between
>multiple “notebooks”, how many indentation levels do you have within
>such a “notebook” (not counting the unique “source” item if there is
>one)? How do you navigate fast and in a reliable way? Do you rely on
>tagging, search? Or did I not grasp any feature making all this much
>easier than I imagine from the outside?
Notebooks can be gathered into “Stacks”—stacks have one level:
Stack A
......Notebook 1
......Notebook 2
There is no indentation within notebooks.
Posted by WSP
Oct 9, 2013 at 03:17 AM
I’m in the midst of writing a book with all of my notes in Evernote. I of course use tags and careful note-naming practices, but I am falling back mainly on “outline notes” in which I create rather primitive outlines of chapters filled with links to other notes.
It’s not a terribly sophisticated form of outlining—it certainly wouldn’t satisfy many of the really intense outline-enthusiasts on this forum—but I have to admit that I have been a slovenly outliner all my life. When I first encountered formal outlining in high school, I asked my teacher, “How can I know what I am going to write before I write it?” That still seems like a reasonable question to me. Of course when I used to do a long piece of writing (before computers, that is), I sketched out on paper the main sections and subsections and then organized my note cards in a sequence that more or less approximated my rough sketches. But I was always convinced that the really important organizational stuff went on in my head as I was gathering material and as I was writing.
In other words, Evernote is not terribly good at organizing material, but it more or less works for someone like me who harbors suspicions of over-elaborate organizing anyway. I hope I won’t be branded a heretic on this forum for expressing such an unorthodox view.
Bill