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Posted by Slartibartfarst
Sep 30, 2013 at 03:40 PM
jimspoon wrote: Sep 30, 2013 at 07:54 AM
Scrapbook is a great extension. It was the main thing that kept me
>using Firefox before finally switching to Chrome. Also has good
>annotation features. I used to use the “auto-save” extension so that I
>saved every page I browsed without any intervention on my part. I
>wished it had the ability to save the files in MHT format though.
> ...
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Re MHT: Probably not much use to you now that you have switched to Chrome, but I can report useful results with my trials of these Firefox extensions: (pretty impressive results actually)
- UnMHT - http://www.unmht.org/unmht/en_index.html
- Mozilla Archive Format (MHT/MAFF) - http://maf.mozdev.org/
The caveat I have is that, though these both work perfectly, the content of saved MAFF files (pages) might not always be easily searchable. Whether you have saved single or multiple pages/tabs, viewing the archive file may be restricted to a Mozilla browser with the MAF extnsion. Universal Viewer and Internet Explorer do not seem to be able to decode the compression (.ZIP) format they use, though 7-zip can open the files OK as an archive.
Interestingly, I noticed that the MS Labs OneNote Canvas experimental software (circa 2009?) exported/converted all the OneNote .one files into .mht files. (It was a one-way conversion only.)
Posted by jimspoon
Sep 30, 2013 at 08:18 PM
Slartibartfarst wrote:
>Re MHT: Probably not much use to you now that you have switched to
>Chrome, but I can report useful results with my trials of these Firefox
>extensions: (pretty impressive results actually)
> - UnMHT - http://www.unmht.org/unmht/en_index.html
> - Mozilla Archive Format (MHT/MAFF) - http://maf.mozdev.org/
>
>The caveat I have is that, though these both work perfectly, the content
>of saved MAFF files (pages) might not always be easily searchable.
>Whether you have saved single or multiple pages/tabs, viewing the
>archive file may be restricted to a Mozilla browser with the MAF
>extnsion. Universal Viewer and Internet Explorer do not seem to be able
>to decode the compression (.ZIP) format they use, though 7-zip can open
>the files OK as an archive.
>
>Interestingly, I noticed that the MS Labs OneNote Canvas experimental
>software (circa 2009?) exported/converted all the OneNote .one files
>into .mht files. (It was a one-way conversion only.)
Also excellent extensions, I ran them both at the same time. When I think about the great Firefox extensions - Scrapbook, Tab Mix Plus, Tab Groups Manager, All in One Sidebar, I wonder why I switched! I liked that Chrome allowed me to make “application shortcuts” to webapps and webpages so I could run them in their own windows. Firefox dropped the ball on that. Also liked that Chrome runs each tab in its own process, less prone to crashes and freezes? It also seemed likely I’d have a better experience with Google Webapps in Chrome. Plus perhaps better cross-device synchronization? And a shift in development away from Firefox extensions to Chrome extensions/apps. But I still miss those great Firefox extensions. But I am getting away from Wayne’s topic.
I used to save webpages to MHTs all the time; now very rarely. like Wayne I have mostly shifted to PDFs. I think links are usually no longer clickable when I save a page to PDF, but the PDFs are easy to view regardless of platform or device. I also think I’m going to save my scanned documents and even receipts as PDFs rather than JPEG/TIFF images for the same reason.
Posted by Wayne K
Oct 1, 2013 at 12:59 AM
Thanks for everyone’s detailed suggestions. I have a lot to work through. As Jim mentioned, I want to stick with PDF’s because I more easily do markups. I used Scrapbook Plus for a while but finally gave it up because there was no way to do the markups I want. Plus, I don’t like my pages saved into a folder of dozens of files. I want one simple file that can be marked up and easily exchanged with others.
Posted by Wayne K
Oct 1, 2013 at 01:11 AM
MadaboutDana wrote:
I think I’ve understood the problem, and while I can’t pretend to be
>able to offer “the ultimate” solution, I’ve found the following approach
>useful.
>
>I use the Windows version of Notebooks (by Alfons Schmid:
>notebooksapp.com) to copy and save web pages. Notebooks preserves the
>formatting of web pages almost unchanged, but also allows you to edit
>the pages (e.g. add comments,highlights, or even rewrite/reformat the
>things completely, etc.). So a typical Notebooks page consists of:
>
>Title
>URL (pasted)
>Comments (by me)
>Tags (by me)
>Contents of web page (pasted)
>
>This means that when I eventually read through the web page, I may
>decide to cut out bits that aren’t directly relevant to my interests
>(easy: just select and delete). Other pages I make “read-only”
>(Notebooks offers that facility) so I can’t change them (e.g. nice bits
>of writing I want to preserve for my future edification).
>
>Notebooks automatically time-stamps pages anyway, and you can arrange
>them into folders. The actual pages are held as separate files (an HTML
>file plus a .plist file for each page, containing the index and
>references), and Notebooks automatically indexes them for searching (I
>have to say the iOS app’s search function is much better than the
>Windows client’s search function, but you can always use Windows Desktop
>Search or any other search app of your choice; I use Copernic, for
>example). Notebooks folders are thus actual folders in the file system,
>which makes Notebooks very “open”.
>
>While this doesn’t obviate the issue of duplicate pages in particular,
>it does make it very easy to organize pages and delete them, annotate
>them (using highlights if you wish!), shove ‘em about wherever you want
>‘em, and so on. Although it’s a slightly lengthier process than using
>e.g. Surfulater or Scrapbook, I’ve found it’s more flexible - and unlike
>Surfulater, Notebooks supports full UTF-8 encoding, so is compatible
>with most languages. Finally, if you want to manipulate your web pages
>without reference to Notebooks, you can easily do so in the actual
>Windows file system (or on a Mac - Notebooks also has a MacOS client).
>
>The Notebooks Windows client is currently free (because it’s still in
>beta). If you’ve got an iPad, you can synchronize easily via Dropbox
>(Notebooks defaults to Dropbox in any case); the cost of the iOS app is
>low (can’t remember what, exactly). Notebooks has, as a result of all
>the above, become my go-to information repository.
Do you have a link for this software? I’m afraid the name isn’t the best choice for marketing. I just spent ten minutes in Google trying every combination of “Notebooks”, “Windows”, and “Software” I could think of but was unable to find it.
Posted by jimspoon
Oct 1, 2013 at 01:54 AM
wayne - here’s the link for notebooks -
download links are at the bottom.
doesn’t look an android version is coming any time soon.
http://www.helpify.de/notebooks-for-iphone/2191/notebooks-for-android-2?s=1