In the official Evernote forums a poster writes: "At the creativity level, EverNote has the Category Intersection Panel, which allows me to mine my data to discover relationships and associations between seemingly unrelated categories of my EverNote notes. One aspect of creativity is the discovery of relationships not previously known, and EverNote excels at helping me find relationships and associations between different categories of my notes that I never suspected existed."
So, two questions, are there other software tools that can aid in Knowledge discovery. Second, given this knowledge-discovery capability why would you use Onenote instead of Evernote.

Thank you

John OConnor

john oconnor wrote:

are there other software tools that can aid in Knowledge discovery.

John,

I've read of such serendipity occurring within a number of different applications. One way I believe it can happen is any time a user tags a large amount of data and then browses or queries based on those tags. I believe I've read about it in InfoHandler and within Zoot. I believe Manfred has mentioned it a few times over the years in regards to ConnectedText. I've seen it happen myself in WikidPad.

Someone recently mentioned recently on this forum a "critical mass" of structured data and serendipity showing new relations; unfortunately, I don't remember who it was, the context, or the application.

I'm sure others here can give more specific examples of such beneficial data structures and applications.

Regards,
Wes

There is an article by Steven Berlin Johnson that describes this phenomenon as encountered in Devonthink:

ttp://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/archives/000230.html

Manfred

But anytime you collect a sufficiently large amount of notes in a sufficiently good note-keeping application you should be able to experience it once in a while. (But it takes dedication and consistency in keeping notes in one application or one place.)

Manfred

P.S.: ConnectedText has such a category filter (or better a filter that allows several critera, including two or more categories).

There is an article by Steven Berlin Johnson that describes this phenomenon as encountered in Devonthink:

http://www.stevenberlinjohnson.com/movabletype/archives/000230.html

But anytime you collect a sufficiently large amount of notes in a sufficiently good note-keeping application you should be able to experience it once in a while. (But it takes dedication and consistency in keeping notes in one application or one place.)

Manfred

P.S.: ConnectedText has such a category filter (or better a filter that allows several critera, including two or more categories).

I see EverNote and OneNote as designed for different stages in research process. Evernote builds a personal database; it is a kind of archiving tool. OneNote creates a space where information can be combined, analyzed, and elaborated for current projects.Microsoft has said that OneNote is not an archival tool, although MS doesn't place a lot of emphasis on this caveat, because that is the way many of their customers in fact (mis)use it.

I think of these instruments as enhancements for different parts of memory: pure outliners/(especially) mind mappers as enhancing short term memory; OneNote as enhancing working memory, broadly conceived (short term memory plus what it activates in long-term memory);and archival databases such as Ultra-Recall and Evernote as enhancing long term memory.

I am in process of switching from UltraRecall to Evernote as my archival tool, or at least testing the practicability. I see Evernote and UltraRecall as direct competitors. Either can co-exist with OneNote.

Each should lend itself to its own form of serendipity, but the EverNote approach based on overlapping categories is most useful with a large database, that is, an archival tool. As to which programs also have a feature resembling EverNote's category overlap, the following come to mind: Idea!; Personal Knowbase, and Literary Machine. I have never used the last, but it makes strong claims of special abilities in this regard.

srd

john oconnor wrote:

In the official Evernote forums a poster writes: "At the creativity level, EverNote
has the Category Intersection Panel, which allows me to mine my data to discover
relationships and associations between seemingly unrelated categories of my
EverNote notes. One aspect of creativity is the discovery of relationships not
previously known, and EverNote excels at helping me find relationships and
associations between different categories of my notes that I never suspected
existed."
So, two questions, are there other software tools that can aid in
Knowledge discovery. Second, given this knowledge-discovery capability why would
you use Onenote instead of Evernote.

Thank you

John OConnor

Stephen R. Diamond wrote:

I see EverNote and OneNote as designed for different stages in research process.
Evernote builds a personal database; it is a kind of archiving tool. OneNote creates a
space where information can be combined, analyzed, and elaborated for current
projects.

Thank you Stephen. If I start with my information already contained in a program like Ndxcards do Evernote or OnenNote add any value or would they be redundant. Second is Ndxcards the best index card software.

Thanks

John O'Connor

Stephen R. Diamond wrote:

I see EverNote and OneNote as designed for different stages in research process.
Evernote builds a personal database; it is a kind of archiving tool. OneNote creates a
space where information can be combined, analyzed, and elaborated for current
projects.Microsoft has said that OneNote is not an archival tool, although MS
doesn't place a lot of emphasis on this caveat, because that is the way many of their
customers in fact (mis)use it.

Once OneNote 2007 included the ability to create and maintain multiple notebooks, it was inevitable that users (including me) would archive completed projects and other non-current material. You just file old notebooks and create new ones as you need them.

I wouldn't be surprised to see archiving functionality built into a future edition of ON.

Jack

john oconnor wrote:

Thank you Stephen. If I start
with my information already contained in a program like Ndxcards do Evernote or
OnenNote add any value or would they be redundant.

ndxcards is intended to serve both as an archiver (like Evernote) and a work space (like OneNote). On the other hand, ndxcards is designed to work with Microsoft products. For instance, you can use cards as nodes in Visio diagrams, and I suspect similar things can be done with nxdcards in OneNote. I would say that ndxcards is largely redundant in function with Evernote. Both use key words and allow hierarchy (ndxcards by a separate strong outliner and Evernote by hierarchical keywords. The main thing Evernote gives you in addition is the organization of notes by time. This probably isn't enough to justify complicating things. It is more likely, I think, that you will find OneNote's work space a complement to ndxcards, as their approaches to a work space are different.

Second is Ndxcards the best index
card software.

I think it is, but it is the only program of this kind I have first hand knowledge of. From what I have heard and read, it is the best choice, because it contains the best outliner and because the alternatives seem abandoned. Users have remarked that they are unresponsive.

Stephen R. Diamond wrote:

It is more likely, I think, that you will find OneNote's work space a
complement to ndxcards, as their approaches to a work space are different.

Stephen, did you ever get a chance to evaluate Personal Memory Manager. It seems to me that it would also complement Ndxcards.

Also, where would Notemap fit into the following process:

I start with Brainstorm to narrow the issues and to identify the key question.

I then move to Ndxcards to find the raw data for a solution. I rearrange and combine my cards to form a tentative structure.

I then move to Onenote (or Personal Memory Manager?) where I flesh out my cards into larger paragraphs and add secondary data already contained in OneNote.

I then move to Mindgenuis to probe, rearrange it and further flesh-out my structure.

Finally I move to Word

Thank You
John O'Connor