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Posted by Listerene
Feb 11, 2013 at 02:32 PM
Scrivener is way-overkill for what (it seems) you need. For a one-pane outliner, I’ve got the big love for UV Outliner (think the old DOS GrandView, updated). For a two-pane outliner, take your pick of the dozen or so freebies; CherryTree (portable) for instance (it’s basically a freeware version of Treepad, the granddaddy of them all). The Guide, Treedbnotes free, Rightnote Free, All My Notes Free, yada, yada, yada are other choices.
Basically, Scrivener is a glorified 2-pane outliner with a few more bells & whistles designed for (mainly) novelists. Not that it isn’t good (it’s my main choice for fiction writing) but for most uses it’s an unnecessary expense.
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Feb 11, 2013 at 02:45 PM
Listerene wrote:
Scrivener is way-overkill for what (it seems) you need. For a one-pane
>outliner, I’ve got the big love for UV Outliner (think the old DOS
>GrandView, updated). For a two-pane outliner, take your pick of the
>dozen or so freebies; CherryTree (portable) for instance (it’s basically
>a freeware version of Treepad, the granddaddy of them all). The Guide,
>Treedbnotes free, Rightnote Free, All My Notes Free, yada, yada, yada
>are other choices.
While I agree that UV Outliner is a nimble single-pane outliner with some nice features, unless it has improved in the past few months, its biggest weakness is its limited export function, which I think makes it unsuitable for Magenda’s purpose—unless I’ve mis-read his needs.
Steve Z.
Posted by Listerene
Feb 11, 2013 at 03:23 PM
Never had a problem with exporting UV Outliner documents to .rtf. ... what kind of problems *should* I be having?
Posted by Dr Andus
Feb 11, 2013 at 03:24 PM
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>While I agree that UV Outliner is a nimble single-pane outliner
It’s an interesting question as to what “nimble” means in this context. It might be subjective. It could refer to startup and processing time (which was a problem I had with Scrivener for Windows until the latest update) or to ease of use (e.g. no. of steps required for data entry and manipulation).
In the latter sense I didn’t think UV Outliner (and Inspiration) was “nimbler” than Bonsai (when I last tried it months ago), though the former have the added benefit of having inline notes. As for O4D, I find it fairly quick to use (loads of keyboard shortcuts), but it can’t compete on price with UV Outliner :)
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Feb 11, 2013 at 03:39 PM
Listerene wrote:
Never had a problem with exporting UV Outliner documents to .rtf. ...
>what kind of problems *should* I be having?
I think if you re-read my post you won’t find the word “problems” anywhere. If you are happy with the RTF output, great; no need for me to tell you that you should be disappointed. If you’re interested, however, here is what I wrote about UV Outliner last summer, including MY disappointment at the output results:
http://welcometosherwood.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/onenote-smack-down-i-uv-outliner/
Again, it is possible output has been improved since I wrote that.
Steve Z.