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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
May 12, 2018 at 10:37 AM
Also, do bear in mind that in Linux the culture of Open Source and Free (as in speech but also as in beer) is much stronger than in Windows and Mac.
My suggestion would be to support Hyper Plan’s Linux operation under Wine/Crossover. This way, the user base can be expanded, e.g. to certain groups of academics, without disproportionate effort. I’d be happy to test this if you’re interested.
Andy Brice wrote:
>I recently surveyed Hyper Plan users to ask what future features they
>wanted. A Linux port scored rather poorly. But I suppose hardcore Linux
>users aren’t likely to be using a product that is currently only
>available for Windows and Mac. So it is hard to know how much demand
>there really is.
Posted by xtabber
May 12, 2018 at 05:24 PM
Dr Andus wrote:
>Seeing Google’s announcement today (in a nutshell, Chromebooks will be
>able to run Linux apps directly within Chrome OS, without the need for
>any special workarounds, as currently is the case), there is a chance I
>might develop an unhealthy interest in outliner tools on Linux in the
>foreseable future ;-)
>
>https://www.blog.google/products/chromebooks/linux-on-chromebooks/
The announcement notes that “Linux runs inside a virtual machine that was designed from scratch for Chromebooks.” This implies that running Linux apps on Chromebooks will likely impose a substantial performance hit.
Posted by jaslar
May 13, 2018 at 02:17 AM
I was exclusively Linux for quite a while - about 10 years. Then I took a job with a Microsoft shop place, and it just got to be too much work to maintain multiple platforms and updates, so I moved over to Windows 7. Since most of my tools were cross platform, it wasn’t hard.
Then Microsoft Office online came out. I got a Chromebook for travel and found that I could actually make that work. I doubt I’ll buy another Windows machine, and I doubt that I’ll carry my own Windows subscription if I leave my current employer. The Google apps, for collaboration, are better.
Posted by Andy Brice
May 13, 2018 at 07:16 AM
Alexander Deliyannis wrote:
Also, do bear in mind that in Linux the culture of Open Source and Free
>(as in speech but also as in beer) is much stronger than in Windows and
>Mac.
I don’t plan on releasing the source for Hyper Plan.
>
>My suggestion would be to support Hyper Plan’s Linux operation under
>Wine/Crossover. This way, the user base can be expanded, e.g. to certain
>groups of academics, without disproportionate effort. I’d be happy to
>test this if you’re interested.
It should work under WINE, but I haven’t tried it. If you do try it, I would be interested to know how you get on (there is a free trial on the download page).
—
Andy Brice
https://www.hyperplan.com
Posted by Lothar Scholz
May 13, 2018 at 03:16 PM
>The announcement notes that “Linux runs inside a virtual machine that
>was designed from scratch for Chromebooks.” This implies that running
>Linux apps on Chromebooks will likely impose a substantial performance
>hit.
The only problem with VM speed is that they still are terrible on all graphical user interface
stuff because there is no working virtualization of GPU’s yet and it gets worse when the
workload is increasing. And if the chromebook does not come with 4k monitor, it is doomed,
this is now state of the art.
So either they come up with something really good or this idea is born to fail or they
are just using the term virtual machine in a very misleading way and mean sandboxing (via docker).