Search and 'hoist' text
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Posted by Simon Bolivar
Dec 21, 2012 at 02:48 AM
Hello all, I am a long time lurker on outlinersoftware.com (about 2 years now, dipping in and out for the most part, though for the last few months, most intently) and having read the opinions and experiences of users of this site about the many softwares available for organisation, which I am obsessed with (I could very well be OCPD), I would like to outline ‘lol’ the feature of all features that I would like to see in a notetaker.
I would like to undertake a search on text where all the words in the software database are indexed; that all sentences/paragraphs with instances of the word (eg music, music.genre, &music;, music film etc) searched for are ‘hoisted’ out of their various files into one page. The info on this page can then be ‘copied’ or ‘cut’ and saved as a new file or in an existing file. ‘Copied’ when the info belongs in it’s original file, and ‘cut’ when I am jotting down info on the fly and it accumulates as unfiled notes, as I could quickly remove many sentences/paragraphs at a time from the unfiled mass of notes, and then move this collection to an existing file or create a new file for this info to belong.
If there is a software that currently does this or that has this feature on it’s roadmap then I would appreciate if users here could advise me accordingly.
Thanks.
Posted by Jon Polish
Dec 21, 2012 at 02:48 PM
I’m not sure if this is what you want, but TreePad Business has this (from the help file):
Saving search results
Inserting search results into article
(TreePad Business Edition only)
You can insert the entire list of search results as node-hyperlinks into the article using
menu⁄insert⁄links to⁄search results
Export search results
Through menu⁄file⁄export⁄search results one can export search result to a TreePad file
WhizFolders also does what you seem to want with the exception of saving and/or exporting.
UltraRecall can also save searches. You can configure the columns to your specifications.
The old askSam could do this, but it has been a while and I cannot describe the specific steps.
Jon
Posted by Jon Polish
Dec 21, 2012 at 02:57 PM
Jon Polish wrote:
>WhizFolders also does what you seem to want with the exception of saving
>and/or exporting.
>Jon
Wrote too soon. WhizFolders is such an impressive program but it is very deep and occasionally I miss some feature. Yes, this can be done.
Jon
Posted by MadaboutDana
Dec 21, 2012 at 05:20 PM
What you’re describing sounds like a concordance function; there are a few specialised concordance editors out there. I can’t remember what they’re called offhand, but I’ll see if I can dig up some references. Most specialised translation software supports concordance analysis, but tends to be expensive! I know there are specialised text editors that support this kind of analysis, too, but seem to remember they’re also relatively expensive. But then you’re talking about a form of data mining, so it’s not really surprising.
Posted by Simon Bolivar
Dec 23, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Thankyou for your replies guys.
@ Jon Polish
I haven’t tried Treepad before so that is now on my radar. Whizfolders has been on my list of programmes I really want to try, for months now, and it is on my shortlist of programmes that I want to use as my main note taking database; so your bringing up that application in your reply excites me (I really hope that it can do what I posted I want as my most important feature; and I want many features, as do so many posters on this site LOL). I know you have been and may still be a user of Ultra Recall and it is very comprehensive and does impress me with it’s power and all round features, though I see it more as a document manager/windows explorer substitute, and it’s distinct slow down in continual development since approx 2008 is concerning. Ask Sam is impressive but it’s expense is far and away above the other contenders you mention and frankly, prohibitive to me.
@ MadaboutDana
I haven’t heard of the concordance feature before and will be making a note of it, thanks. Any advice that you can give me on this feature has to be valuable as although I have been reading and researching data capture, freeform databases, outliners etc for a while, I am aware, having read this forum, that I am in the company of more seasoned users of information management software and the oppurtunity to pick all of your brains is one too good to miss.
Simon.