Just found out about this link: http://www.psychinnovations.com/directory/outliners-mind-maps

Many are mentioned here before for obvious reasons but what surprised me was how many names there were that I hadn't known/hadn't remembered.

Sadly the actual list is better use for future proof of concepts than anything as many are basic outliners. A few are old links. A few are paid software.

The names that caught my attention are Notetab (mentioned here before) but since it didn't interest me then, I had no idea it was a HTML editor.

There's http://nelements.org/ which caught me by attention because of the recent Mindmap collaboration request thread. (No offense to the examples listed but I have no idea how you could do finance on Mindomo or Mind42. When I think potential online mindmaps my thoughts go to services like SpiderScribe that combined the elements of mindmaps with a dashboard interface of Netvibes and Wunderkit.) Then again, I don't use collaboration tools and I wasn't a fan of SpiderScribe either. Just throwing out why this caught my intention because as a software the colored bubbles do look dated and underpowered compared to the competition but as far as web mindmaps go, the closest comparison I could think of is Bubbl.us and that one has a singular color lay-out. Another interesting look it has is how similar it looks to Pearltrees albeit less complicated.

Finally, there's a bunch of outliners named there that surprised me in that they had metadata/bibliographical forms based on their screenshots. FreshOutline and Treeline are the two that caught my attention. (Both are mentioned in this old thread: http://www.outlinersoftware.com/messages/viewm/4179

Another aspect that surprised me (but only if you've been looking for Linux outliners) are the names underneath there:

POSIX (Linux, BSD, *nix)
hnb - Hierarchical notebook (ncurses-interface)
TuxCards Open source outliner for Linux
Riot - ncurses-outliner, using mbox as file-format
KJots [1] - Free and simple to use outliner for KDE on Linux. Tree structured, it refers to nodes as 'books' and notes as 'pages'. Book view shows a TOC and view mode for all entries. No word wrap.
KnowIt Open source outliner, KDE-based
Gjots2 - Python/GTK/GNOME nice outline editor. Data compatible with KJots.
Zim - A desktop wiki and outliner

The names are definitely in the forum but there's no one topic listing them all and if you do a quick google search for linux outliners, Zim by far is the most popular with Tuxcard probably coming behind because of the association with the Linux mascot.

Doing a quick search, Riot and Knowit are the ones who appear to not yet be mentioned.

Thanks for the pointer. There are a few on the list that I haven't had on my radar any more.
And: Yes, astonishing how many outliners are available for *ix systems.

Franz

Great resource; it would be good to know when the page was last updated, but I couldn't find it.

Re Linux in particular (and at least some other *ix systems):

There's also Notecase which is cross platform; it's probably the most powerful GUI-based two-pane outliner for Linux. Another one is the programming-oriented Leo, based on Python, running in Windows and Linux. Same as OutWiker, introduced to this forum by its developer.

Along with Zim which is the outliner based on the text editor Vim, there's EMACS org-mode. Both work in the console. I think that the latter has had more exposition here, courtesy of JB, including some online references.

The number is significant, but with the exception of the ones above, I am not sure all are actively developed; and, unfortunately, *ix software often requires a background in IT to actually set it up...

By the way, I just saw the Wikipedia entry for outliners http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outliner

Normally this is true but since outliners and PIMs are sparse in Linux, most general distro makes it easy to install the actual widely used notetakers/outliners/wiki. Most of the ones mentioned just so happens to not be widely mentioned but they are only useful as proof of concept not actual mature/ongoing software.

hnb for example could sure use a direct cloud sync as there's already a commandline looking web service like Holly https://hollyapp.com/ that could bypass the complication.

I didn't really want to list all the well known PIM software for Linux such as Notecase as this is a specialist forum and I've taken for granted that most have heard of these but if we're mentioning the commonly used software on Linux:

-Tomboy is still the most widely installed applet in Ubuntu-based distroes and it's a pretty powerful yet simple wiki to start

-RedNotebook is more powerful than Notecase but since it's beyond two pane, it's more of a competitor to Outwiker albeit RedNotebook is supposed to be a journal

-Lyx is pretty simple enough to install and it's trying to learn the simplified Latex that provides all the complications but it's the closest Linux software to having Scrivener's corkboard

-Basket Notepads is often compared to the OneNote of Linux but it is the most unique. For this reason, it is closest to the most powerful. For one thing the free space allows it to be a two pane, three pane, four pane outliner. The price is that it's not compatible with every version of Linux but it's also very exclusive to Linux.

-Nevernote is the unstable clone of Evernote. It needs work but it at least seems to have an ongoing development due to the Evernote fanbase

Finally power for power, Treesheets is also available on Linux although you need to compile it.

Don't forget Pierre's list.

http://www.editgrid.com/user/pplandry/List_of_Outliners

jimspoon wrote:

Don't forget Pierre's list.

http://www.editgrid.com/user/pplandry/List_of_Outliners

LOL ! This list hasn't been updated in the last 4 years however ...

Foolness wrote:

-RedNotebook is more powerful than Notecase but since it's
beyond two pane, it's more of a competitor to Outwiker albeit RedNotebook is supposed
to be a journal

I guess 'power' is always in relation to what one wants to do.

-Basket Notepads is often compared to
the OneNote of Linux but it is the most unique. For this reason, it is closest to the most
powerful. For one thing the free space allows it to be a two pane, three pane, four pane
outliner. The price is that it's not compatible with every version of Linux but it's
also very exclusive to Linux.

Thanks for heads up on this. I don't think I had ever seen it, probably because I use Gnome. It is indeed impressive.

Finally power for power, Treesheets is also available on Linux although
you need to compile it.

Funny how I never think of TreeSheets as an outliner but it definitely fits into that category too. You actually don't need to compile it, just unzip (well untar.gz) the archive and run the executable.

Thanks for the Treesheets info. I actually haven't downloaded the Linux version as soon as I saw it was in tar.

Don't sell your list short Pierre, it may not be updated but it's still the most comprehensive link out there. If you edit it today, you probably only need to add 10 or so items. This is the first time I've actually seen it actually but skimming through it, you've got all the unique one of a kind software that future one of a kind developers could do well to study.

You've got my favorite software in there.

You've got GemX which is still lacking a clear alternative despite having a successful well praised model in it's heyday.

You've got Jarte with it's Auto-Outline + Wordpad that's also missing: http://www.jarte.com/help_new/creating_outlines.html

In terms of old software, I could really count 1-2 names missing in that list and the biggest name missing there is your own InfoQube.

As far as why RedNotebook is more powerful, much of it's reputation actually comes from how blogs like this accepted it's reception:

http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2010/11/rednotebook-versus-evernote.html
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/rednotebook-rocks-fullfeatured-private-journal-tool/
http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/rednotebook—advanced-diary-keeping

It's probably the first modern non-Linux user praised (well not all Linux users) Linux software that had a name that made sense to casual users. An interface that was unanimously hyped by authors as if it was a Windows freeware. It's still relative but it has the reputation for one of the more well polished Linux software out there and when it comes to Linux, that's as much a win on usability as it is on features. After all a software is not just there to be powerful, it's there to be used. In that area, RedNotebook's inclusion of a clear calendar pushes it ahead of Outwiker in terms of power. Albeit as mentioned, it's really not an apples and apples comparison as RedNotebook is supposed to be a journal but it captured something that Linux outliners are solely missing: that Apple usability design concept where people just get it. Of course it might be worth mentioning that I'm not one of those. I could barely understand the program much less type something on it but I'm not much of a journal user.

Of all the OLD outliners, the best single-pane one was certainly GrandView.