Drowning by Numbers or News from Evercrap

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Posted by Fredy
Aug 27, 2012 at 04:16 PM

http://evernote.com/getting_started/moleskine/#4

“When you use the Page Camera to capture a note in Evernote Smart Notebook, Evernote will recognize the square Smart Stickers and automatically add a selected tag to the digital note and file it into a selected folder. Evernote only recognizes the Smart Stickers included in Smart Notebook, and only when they are on Evernote Smart Notebook Paper.”

We are speaking of SIX categories here, we are speaking of those Chinese (camp-produced?) notebooks made of which Bruce “S-M” Chatwin was one of the more notable “ambassadors” - more on such “ambassadors” in the linked site above, rather go an clip yourself if you want my advice -, and of a special variety of those, 3 times more expensive, whilst it would have perfectly been possible to file notes from the normal variety and to as many folders as you would have liked by shortcuts in circles, e.g. but that would have been communism, would it not have been?

Oh, and as we can read in the Kant professor blog having flewn from here, they lately pretend their Everthing works as your brain does - I am eager to say that the Kant professor is not stupid enough either to buy that crap, lol.

(But you see, in IM, Everguys (the producers I mean, not their fanboys) are the marketing equivalent to to the iGuys. Who said you can never go bankrupt by underestimating customers` iq?

Posted by Daly de Gagne
Aug 27, 2012 at 06:07 PM

Fredy, I also tend to be a little cynical about this last Evernote development involving Moleskines on digital steroids.

The irony of what I have just said is that I use both EN, and up until a year ago, Moleskine, when I discovered Leuchtturm makes similar books, costing less and being of a better quality. Pages are also numbered, saving me the bother.

My notebooks are where I can indulge in my use of fountain pens and the inks which go with them. I would not give up the pleasure and flexibility my dated, yet appropriate, technology provide.

I can key in what I need to move from page to EN.

I use EN because it is the best way to capture material from the web, and I appreciate that it works in various browsers.

So perhaps in the sense that the human brain captures information and so does EN, it is not that great a stretch for a marketer to say that it works like the human brain.

But my studies, limited as they have been, of the human brain and processes made possible by it and the extended nervous system, is that EN lacks in all but a rudimentary sense the qualities which characterize how our brains work.

I am referring to information capture which it does well, and also to information processing at which it has only scratched the surface.

If EN is not careful a competitor will come along with a product which is equally capable of capturing material, but which will also have a more fully developed information management capability.

That product, based on Neville’s initial sharing, could be Surfulator in its cloud based, new generation mode.

Anyhow, those are my thoughts.

Cheers,

Daly

Posted by Fredy
Sep 1, 2012 at 04:28 PM

Hello Daly,

I just added to my rant against Goo1984, and you’re the one loudest touting EN for its convenience here. I KNOW convenience is of utmost importance, and THAT’s why I went from MI to UR to AO (which is crap but so convenient for those very early, “collecting” steps (and if you do heavy scripting on it) - so I perfectly understand your stance, and perfectly acknowledge your stance.

AND I know most, perhaps all of our “material” COULD be “read” / analyzed by the authorities, without being of real harm to us - within the current state of affairs that is.

But then, I just have deleted / pasted back to my system some 12 lines of text from here in which I tried to explain and gave specifics, though “known”, would have been intercepted by those authorities today, Sept, 2012, and would have appear me on their “lists” - and if I already am on such lists, would have made me jump up at least 100 positions there.

On the other hand, if, as a therapist, you have info on your clients, that will certainly not be used by the authorities against yourself, but what about your clients, then? This being said, I know most “material” of individuals is without any problems “shareable”, but what about corporate stuff, then? In Europe, it’s become common sense between corporations that per a certain American intelligence agency, they are pillaged from every little commercial “secret” they might have, in favor of big U.S. corporations, whatever that U.S. state agency can get hold of. Common sense of Europeon corporations, I say, not Fred’s specific paranoia!

So, we “happily disagree” here: Yes, for individuals, in most cases, no problem, ok, but even then, be glad you’re in an acceptable country where “they” don’t turn “normal things” against you. But even then, why should I take the trouble to have to decide what to stuff into the web, what into my “more personal files”?

I would not like to do it, and neither for “convenience in synching” reasons - best synch sw (= of the “normal” tools costing some dozen of bucks, not speaking of special tools costing several Benjamins) for many reasons: GoodSync2Go, the “2Go” part being the exceptional element here (will do a review sometime) : For several devices and multiple usb storage, didn’t find anything better, and I searched hard!

My real point is, if for you it’s okay to “semi-publish” your things, ok, but don’t think it’s safe there (cf. Goo1984).

III

What is the Australian called again - I do NOT think he will put EN’s market upside down. See, I have some knowledge with editors, and his is among the most overpriced of them all. Elsewhere, I say, “pay good price for good stuff”, so this seems to be an incoherent statement, but then, good price for sw where “all” the good elements are absent from? So he’s got a “good enough quality” philosophy I certainly don’t share.

As for (legit) notebooks, theoretically I’m perfectly on your side. Problem: It’s under the shower, on the steerwheel, in bed being so tired I can’t write anymore (be it in the dark or having switched on the light again), etc., that I am most in need of such notebooks, so I reverted to my old micro cassette recorder, but having adopted exactly that politics detailed by another contributor here some time ago: Afterwards, I do not literally transcribe, but I listen to it and reformulate / expand / compress whenever necessary or reasonable; I know the very last alternative might appear implausible in my case.

To end, those notes in the overpriced EN notebooks: The idea of automatic conversion to searchable text is very enticing, even given the price. But then, what adult has got a handwriting then that could be processed by any sw? Or the other way round: First, they force you to buy overpriced notebooks, and on top of it, they force you to readopt your child handwriting of 50 years ago in order / by pretext to be decipherable? But enough rant about “them” wanting us to act like children for today. (But what is TV else, then? Enough!)

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