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Using a PIM to catalog files and folders REDUX
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Posted by Cassius
Jul 4, 2012 at 07:52 PM
I tested UR a year or two ago, before I decided to consider just using links to folders and files. I found that UR’s capability for capturing Web pages was poorer than that of myBase, Surfulater, or WebResearch. Has UR’s Web Page capture substantially improved?
Also, does anyone have an opinion on the long-term viability of UR?
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Jul 4, 2012 at 08:03 PM
Based on the recent half-hearted upgrade, which made it costly, and the developer’s chronic issues with communication, I’d say Ultra Recall should be put on a watch list. Also, a few years ago the developers indicated UR might not be a continuing product, then changed their mind.
Other reasons - the developers do not seem sensitive to basic issues such as problems with web pages, as Casius mentions, or the request for multiple windows (MyInfo has responded with ability to open multiple windows, though only the original window can be used for editing; editing for all windows may come with the next major upgrade).
Daly
Cassius wrote:
> I tested UR a year or two ago, before I decided to consider just using links to folders
>and files. I found that UR’s capability for capturing Web pages was poorer than that of
>myBase, Surfulater, or WebResearch. Has UR’s Web Page capture substantially
>improved?
>
>Also, does anyone have an opinion on the long-term viability of UR?
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Jul 5, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Cassius wrote:
>Also, does anyone have an opinion on the long-term viability of UR?
I’ve written some negative stuff about UltraRecall’s development tactics (I definitely wouldn’t call it a strategy) here http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/4078/0/new-ultrarecall-version-released so in all fairness I should at least add here a couple of uniquely positive points on the program.
(1) I second Pavi’s accolade on UR’s file organisation abilities. In this respect I believe it is unsurpassable.
(2) In respect to UR’s future I have no idea. But what I find excellent on behalf of its developer, Kinook, is that they’ve already provided a tool for managing UR files directly via SQLite, its database enegine http://www.kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=2825
SQLite http://sqlite.org/ is free and open source and, as stated in its website, the most widely used SQL database tool in the world. I can’t think of a better way to ensure future access of one’s data.
Posted by Cassius
Jul 8, 2012 at 06:55 AM
Based on Steve Zeoli’s recommendation of RightNote, I downloaded the trial, portable copy.
Just like TreePad, it has accepted every file type and folder I dragged and dropped into it Also, it accepted pasted Web URLs as live links. In TreePad one has to go through an extra step for pasted URLs to become live links.
I’ve already started testing TreePad as a Cataloging PIM for file, folder and Web links.
Now I guess I have to do the same for RightNote, but first I’ll check out the capabilities of its search function.
Posted by Pavi
Jul 8, 2012 at 06:27 PM
Hi, as a person who recommends UltraRecall, I have to point out that what Daly and Alexander mention are absolutely correct. For inexplicable reasons, the developer not only does not roll out new features that are expected, but also fails to inform users how the road plan changes and what to expect.
However, although UR is considered by some to be “long in the tooth”, it still has amazing features, such as the attribute system, saved searches and folder/Outlook sync that are not found in other PIMS (well, some have attributes like MyInfo…). If Kinook would just communicate with us more..!
I for one consider UR 4.2 to be “feature complete” for my uses, with the possibility to export data in the future if needed (translation: it works for me now and I won’t hold my breath on any new features I would like).
Best, /Pavi