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Posted by Jan Rifkinson
Jul 4, 2007 at 10:52 PM
JJ wrote:
>Web Research vs. UltraRecall Review [snip]
I don’t know WR at all but am familiar with & use UltraRecall on a daily basis. IMO your review of UR is not accurate nor complete.
A single but important example is that you imply that UR is not really stable. Like I said I use it every day & have for some time now & have not had a crash in months & months. I think Quant covered some other points of possible contention.
UltraRecall has its quirks for sure but I don’t think you represented it’s weaknesses or its strengths in a factual manner.
I will, however, take a look @ Web Research because I’m always interested in new products in this category.
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
Posted by Derek Cornish
Jul 4, 2007 at 10:52 PM
Quant,
Personally I think WR stands or falls on its merits as a web capture program. As you suggest, it is not a PIM - and, indeed, not designed to be. So - no templates, no reminders, etc. It does have “search templates”. To quote the Help file: “Web Research can save any search criteria that you entered in Advanced Find as a Search Template. Later, you can repeat the search based on the search criteria, or you can modify it.”
WR can add edit web pages, add comments, highlight, etc. htm files, add follow-up reminders - but these features work somewhat more straightforwardly when using IE than Firefox. I like the WR gui, which reminds me in some ways of Zoot’s 3 panes.
I also like UR, which I have registered in case Zoot32 does not happen. If Zoot32 DOES happen, then I’d expect that it would ultimately give UR a good run for its money and make web capture “helper programs” as a group a less attractive buy. That’s just my view - but the latter are busy adding Zoot and UR-like features, so presumably they think so too. (IMHO, of course).
Anyone interested in WR can d/l a trial. Macropool is a European (German, specifically) software company, so it has limited visibility over here - here, for me, being Kansas :-). This is the URL: http://www.macropool.com/en/products/index.html
There are a lot of pros and cons in relation to Surfulater, vs WR, Onflio and Net Snippets. For some people (e.g., running Firefox), a combination of Scrapbook and Zotero might be better.
Derek
Posted by Graham Rhind
Jul 5, 2007 at 06:50 AM
I feel rather uncomfortable with posters being flamed for posting apparently biassed or incomplete reviews. Every user has different needs and desires leading us to use packages in different ways; and every software package has its good and bad points. Judging by previous posts, jj is a long time fan of Web Research, just as quant and Jan are of UR.
Personally, like jj, I found UltraRecall pro 3 to be sluggish and unstable, and it crashed on me regularly (I don’t know if this has been resolved by the most recent releases). I would prefer to think we were trying to do different things with the software, or our computer setups are different, rather than that any attempt is being made to mislead.
Graham
Posted by quant
Jul 5, 2007 at 07:09 AM
Derek Cornish wrote:
>Quant,
>
>Personally I think WR stands or falls on its merits as a web capture program.
I see, so don’t you think it’s not a best idea to compare to UR? I personally think UR is much more than just a web capture soft. I started reading your review excited that I might see some other program that is comparable in feature set with UR, but nothing like that followed. What about comparing WR with Surfulater or another similar soft?
quant
Posted by Ike Washington
Jul 5, 2007 at 09:41 AM
Well said, Graham. Let’s keep this forum a friendly place.
Ike
Graham Rhind wrote:
>I feel rather uncomfortable with posters being flamed for posting apparently
>biassed or incomplete reviews. Every user has different needs and desires leading us
>to use packages in different ways; and every software package has its good and bad
>points. Judging by previous posts, jj is a long time fan of Web Research, just as quant
>and Jan are of UR.