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Posted by Dominik Holenstein
Jun 19, 2007 at 06:25 PM
This new feature in MyInfo 4 reminds me very much of UltraRecall:
http://www.milenix.com/blog/
Dominik
Posted by quant
Jun 19, 2007 at 06:42 PM
that by itself would be fine, and only recognizing that it’s a very useful feature (probably taken from an already more powerful software), what is not nice is the lie that follows it:
“In conclusion, MyInfo 4 will offer the most powerful meta data capabilities, which aren’t available in any other PIM on the market!”
Posted by Thomas
Jun 20, 2007 at 07:57 PM
quant wrote:
>(probably taken from an already more powerful software),
Everbody copies something from someone else. This kind of GUI isn’t innovative feature of UR, I have seen it elsewhere too (eg. Delphi programming language GUI).
> what is not nice is the lie
>that follows it:
>
>“In conclusion, MyInfo 4 will offer the most powerful meta data
>capabilities, which aren’t available in any other PIM on the market!”
MI4 wasn’t released yet, so I would be careful to make any judgements or comparisons without seeing the product first.
If MI4 moved feature-wise more towards UR, I wouldn’t mind at all. I hope that kind of competition would help UR programmers move in the “right” direction and more speadily. (They are great as it is, but MI4 is leagues above UR when it comes to being friendly and simple to use for new users.)
Posted by quant
Jun 21, 2007 at 10:31 AM
Thomas wrote:
>quant wrote:
>>(probably taken from an already more powerful software),
>
>Everbody
>copies something from someone else. This kind of GUI isn’t innovative feature of UR, I
>have seen it elsewhere too (eg. Delphi programming language GUI).
however, there is a huge difference to where the feature is applied. While it’s common in programming GUIs, it’s not used in PIM cause not many softwares offer meta-data. An example, while partial differential equations were long known before 1973, when Black-Scholes used it to option pricing, they got a Nobel Prize for it!
And after that, saying that no other program has it, hmm, at least author could write sth like “to my best knowledge ... “, but even then it would be lie (cause I’m sure developers know their competitors)!
>If MI4 moved feature-wise more
>towards UR, I wouldn’t mind at all. I hope that kind of competition would help UR
>programmers move in the “right” direction and more speadily. (They are great as it is,
>but MI4 is leagues above UR when it comes to being friendly and simple to use for new
>users.)
yes, but isn’t it friendlier because what you said in the first sentence, ie. because it has much much less features than UR? Moreover, everything in UR is fully customizable, the problem is that new users are overwhelmed by so many features UR provides and they never experienced in another software, that they think it’s not user friendly ... it was suggested by some users on UR forum to create a simpler “Beginner” interface, where advanced features would be disabled, and once people familiarize with UR, they could just which to “Advanced” mode somewhere in the option setting ....
Posted by Graham Rhind
Jun 21, 2007 at 11:06 AM
quant wrote:
>yes, but isn’t it friendlier because
>what you said in the first sentence, ie. because it has much much less features than UR?
>Moreover, everything in UR is fully customizable, the problem is that new users are
>overwhelmed by so many features UR provides and they never experienced in another
>software, that they think it’s not user friendly ... it was suggested by some users on
>UR forum to create a simpler “Beginner” interface, where advanced features would be
>disabled, and once people familiarize with UR, they could just which to “Advanced”
>mode somewhere in the option setting ....
I have to disagree. Being rich in features is not UR’s problem in my mind, and nor is its interface. It’s problems stem from lack of a usable help file, lack of useful error messages when something is not doing what it is supposed to do, lack of a user-friendly support system and general sluggishness. I think Kinook should concentrate on those issues before fiddling with the interface. As we’ve discussed before, you like the challenge of spending time trying to find a way around UR’s limitations to use it’s power to the max. Personally, I don’t have the time or inclination to take on that challenge. I can get the same power elsewhere, more easily. :-)
Graham