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Posted by Mitchell Kastner
Nov 11, 2011 at 12:53 AM
Glen,
Are you saying that Citavi allows you to copy its raw field code to the clipboard, as Endnote does? Because Mendeley and Zotero does not copy its citation field to clipboard; it copies only the text representation of the citation and therefore when you merge the Scrivener docs into one Word doc Mendeley and Zotero cannot keep track of citations to the same reference.
Whereas in their add-ins to Word, they both copy the citation field; hence it would be nice to have them added in to Scrivener.
Glen Coulthard wrote:
>Re: Citavi + Scrivener
>
>I am using this combination now (although still early in my
>learning curve). Seems to work similar to EndNote, in that:
>
>1) I have both programs
>open and running on a dual monitor system,
>2) search for and copy the reference from
>Citavi to the Clipboard (using full program or smaller “Publication Assistant”
>window),
>3) paste the citation marker in Scrivener; e.g., {Yin 2003 #393}
>4)
>compile from Scrivener to RTF,
>5) use the Publication formatter in Citavi to produce
>a formatted (i.e., APA, MLA, Chicago style) Word DOCX file from the Scrivener RTF,
>complete with bibliography.
>
>Yes, it sounds as though there are lots of steps, but it
>is really quite fast and easy.
>
>Hope that helps,
>Glen
Posted by Mitchell Kastner
Nov 11, 2011 at 12:56 AM
Pavi,
That’s good to hear. Almost all of the free articles I downloaded were from pure socialist or near-socialist countries which annoyed me because I knew that our government ponied up big time to fund research, the written products of which are published in journals which are not free.
Posted by $Bill
Nov 11, 2011 at 01:37 AM
JBfrom wrote:
>Ultra Recall is not going to work for multiple gigs of data. If for no other reason than
>the Windows file size limit.
>
>Does Smereka face the same problem? Sounds like it would.
Seems you are drawing conclusions with inaccurate information, a few snips are below to support my point. Of note, I am not suggesting that approaching these limits is practical. But with lots of memory and current top-end hardware, perhaps it would be. Or maybe you should be using Amazon RDS.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Relational_Database_Service
Both UltraRecall and Smereka use Sqlite as a database.
http://sqlite.org/limits.html
UltraRecall FAQ
http://kinook.com/Forum/showthread.php?t=709
The physical size limit is 2 terabytes
We’ve successfully tested (and several users report using) databases upwards of 5GB
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntfs
Posted by JBfrom
Nov 11, 2011 at 03:45 AM
I ran into the file size limit because some of my storage devices were still on FAT32.
It’s interesting to know that it might be possible to pull it off.
However, given the slowness of my previous experience with sql databases, I’d want to hear reports of users successfully operating databases much larger than 5gb. For example, one of my ebooks folders is 60gb.
I’m not a techie, so I’m not sure how Amazon RDS would be useful for me, beyond supplying a powerful backend.
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Nov 13, 2011 at 11:09 AM
JBfrom wrote:
>However, given
>the slowness of my previous experience with sql databases, I’d want to hear reports of
>users successfully operating databases much larger than 5gb. For example, one of my
>ebooks folders is 60gb.
I will point to Richard’s answer here http://www.outlinersoftware.com/messages/viewm/11337 to describe my own approach for such material too. I really cannot imagine why one should want to keep a collection of PDFs within a single huge database file. The file itself would become fragmented and slow, it would be a nightmare to backup regularly, and would invite corruption in the event of the first problematic system shutdown.
Re slowness, the client-server architecture inherent in SQL databases may indeed be slower than directly accessing a huge text file, but I’m not sure how the two are comparable in terms of content flexibility. Or am I missing something?
In any case, you may want to take this discussion to the said topic http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/3047 as more relevant.