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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Dec 17, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Daly de Gagne wrote:
>If Sense lives up to my unrealistic expectations, together with
>Noteliner, it could be possible for me to say that single pane outlining
>(in each case with a navigation pane which provides for either single or
>2 pane outlining) is more alive and well in the Windows world than I
>had realized.
Daly, I think you’ll find that Sense is quite a unique piece of software in terms of capabilities. That said, it does have a learning curve, and some things are not as intuitive as one would like. The licensing also is per machine, which is not ideal.
Dave, the developer, is open to suggestions and follows this forum from time to time. Since I first installed and registered Sense he has made many improvements. Sense’s ability to work fully from one pane is quite a recent addition. I’m not sure why this software hasn’t become more popular—it probably hasn’t made it to the right ears yet. Maybe if James Fallows tries it and write a word or two about it…
Posted by shatteredmindofbob
Dec 18, 2012 at 02:20 AM
Tried Bonsai and damn, it looks like this an opportunity the developer missed out on badly. I never really gave it a decent look because it’s marketed as the desktop component for a to-do list app on PalmOS and Windows Mobile…
And yet, once I turn off all the task management functions that are enabled by default, it seems to pretty much do what I want a single-pane outliner to do.
And yet, I’m cheap and am reluctant to shell out money for what is essentially abandonware.
Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 18, 2012 at 02:50 AM
shatteredmindofbob wrote:
Tried Bonsai and damn, it looks like this an opportunity the developer
>missed out on badly. I never really gave it a decent look because it’s
>marketed as the desktop component for a to-do list app on PalmOS and
>Windows Mobile…
Yes, exactly!!! I’ve been saying this for years. It’s incredible that they haven’t even bothered to update the website to reposition the software after Palm etc. had died. It’s like they don’t realise that there is a market for it, if they had just repackaged the product (like SplashNotes or StoryView did).
>And yet, once I turn off all the task management functions that are
>enabled by default, it seems to pretty much do what I want a single-pane
>outliner to do.
As I’ve been arguing, it has a lot of outliner-oriented features that many other contemporary outliners are still lacking:
http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/4193
>And yet, I’m cheap and am reluctant to shell out money for what is
>essentially abandonware.
I can understand that, considering that Noteliner, UV Outliner and TKOutline are free. But it all depends on your needs. I use Bonsai every day, as I find it the fastest outliner and list sorter, so for me it’s an essential tool and IMHO it’s a better value than Inspiration even at 50% off.
Unfortunately I don’t get a cut for plugging it. I love this product so much, if I had the money, I’d buy the company :) But seriously, someone could make some money by just simply repositioning this product as an outliner and making a few Youtube videos on how to use it for outlining (or even as a to-do manager).
Posted by Cassius
Dec 18, 2012 at 05:25 AM
Dr. Andus,
Thanks for the screenshot! One question: How much text can one put in a single outline item and can one include graphics?
Thanks!
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Dr Andus wrote:
>The Bonsai interface is fairly customisable. You can make it look like a
>basic single-pane outliner. Here is a screenshot of my setup. Please
>note that colouring in the font and the background is optional (i.e.
>those are my choices). You can have it in black and white, if you
>prefer.
>
>http://drandus.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/natara_bonsai.png
Posted by Dr Andus
Dec 18, 2012 at 01:06 PM
Cassius wrote:
>How much text can one put in
>a single outline item and can one include graphics?
You put your finger on Bonsai’s main limitations:
- Each item in the outline is limited to 1000 characters.
- The outline depth is limited to 30 levels.
- Notes attached to items are limited to 32 KB.
- Limit of 15 user defined category names for each outline.
You can’t insert images - although you can link to them. The links can appear in both the outline item’s title and notes. Bonsai recognizes the following types of external resources:
http://
https://
ftp://
mailto:
file:/// - Drive letter based file path. “file:///C:\temp.txt”.
file:\\ - UNC based file path. For example “file:\\ComputerName\ShareName\temp.txt”.
outlook:
evernote:// - Evernote entries: evernote://C:\DBs\EverNote.enb?guid=[11CAB2D8-744A-E8BA-0C144682872A7557]