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Posted by Graham Rhind
Mar 10, 2007 at 01:45 PM
To round this off, I made a move on some of the suggestions (thanks for those everybody!).
I’m still awaiting approval to get involved with the Personal Brain beta.
I tried Journal. It’s clearly rtf-based - html can’t be pasted into it correctly. It has very impressive table support for an rtf product, but it has the same frustrating image limitations as, for example, Whizfolders, which cannot handle large images. After I pointed this out to Sanjay at Whizfolders he added capability to reduce image size to allow it to be pasted. When trying to insert a large image into Journal the program deosn’t crash, but it doesn’t paste the image either. It just does ... nothing.
Onto myBase. I like the idea of having an rtf tab and an html tab side-by-side, but it has some very peculiar limitations. It can only insert pictures with pasting (no right click->insert support) and its table handling is very primitive. Html files in the browser can’t be pasted without an additional module, or editted. Very surprising to me is that you can’t use the browser to browse - there’s nowhere to type in a URL. I did like the way it dissasembled web pages into component parts as attachments - I haven’t seen that before in any program. I can see its potential, but it would drive me slightly loopy in its present form.
I’ve been resisting looking again at UltraRecall because I really don’t want to start shifting data again to a new program. But given everybody’s enthusiasm here for the new version I weakened, downloaded it and ALMOST had a wow! moment. I was tempted to reach for my credit card but, very surprisingly, the rtf editing is very poor indeed. No table support at all. No image support except if pasted. And even then I managed to get UR to crash with startling and frightening regularity whenever I got near to an image, regardless of size. Did I miss something? If not, what a shame and what an omission.
Graham
Posted by Graham Rhind
Mar 10, 2007 at 01:51 PM
I should correct this. I’ve found in the meantime a way of editting html files in myBase.
Graham
Graham Rhind wrote:
>Onto myBase. Html files in the browser can’t be ...... or
>editted.
Posted by Chris Murtland
Mar 10, 2007 at 02:11 PM
Graham,
You can drag image files directly into the tree in Ultra Recall (they don’t necessarily have to be pasted into the RTF text editor to be viewed). Also, look at the forum for some tips on advanced editing - while I don’t use this, there is even a way to open up the RTF text for editing in Word. Finally, I’ve been running UR for over two years and the number of times it has crashed is literally in the single digits, so you may want to email their support with any problems you’re having.
Chris
Posted by Chris Murtland
Mar 10, 2007 at 02:15 PM
Also, it’s not advertised as a feature, but if you search the UR forum you will find a method for editing the stored/captured web/html files in UR. One thing I like about Kinook is that they will offer up workarounds or suggestions for how things might be accomplished even beyond the documented features.
Chris
Posted by Graham Rhind
Mar 10, 2007 at 02:16 PM
Yes, I’m not having problems with putting images into the tree. It’s putting it into an rtf note (i.e. as an embedded image within a text) which doesn’t work (a link is embedded rather than the image). I do find that a major issue. I know it’s not intended to be a word processor, but given its strength in other areas, I’m surprised this hasn’t been given any attention.
Graham
Chris Murtland wrote:
>Graham,
>
>You can drag image files directly into the tree in Ultra Recall (they don’t
>necessarily have to be pasted into the RTF text editor to be viewed). Also, look at the
>forum for some tips on advanced editing - while I don’t use this, there is even a way to
>open up the RTF text for editing in Word. Finally, I’ve been running UR for over two
>years and the number of times it has crashed is literally in the single digits, so you
>may want to email their support with any problems you’re having.
>
>Chris
>