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Posted by gunars
Dec 19, 2012 at 06:45 AM
According, to this link, both were written by John Friend, although there were some legal disputes:
Cassius wrote:
Perhaps my memory is failing, but I recall that GrandView was written by
>the author of PC Outline. The author went on to other endeavors and
>never created a Windows version of GV. Someone else tried to create a
>Windows version, but couldn’t get it to work well. Note: The
>underlying file structure of GV was pretty sophisticated (complex).
Posted by Cassius
Dec 19, 2012 at 01:57 PM
Thanks gunars for John Friend’s name. Age has caused my long-term memory to bog down. The memories are still there, but dragging them out sometimes takes hours.
Years ago, I actually spoke with John. I was hoping he could provide documentation on GrandView—particularly on the file format. Unfortunately, he had just moved, was surrounded by boxes, and had no idea which box the documentation might be in. Also, as I said, he had moved on to other pursuits.
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gunars wrote:
According, to this link, both were written by John Friend, although
>there were some legal disputes:
>
>http://books.google.com/books?id=rDAEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA21-IA16&lpg=PA21-IA16&dq=pc+outline+brown+bag&source=bl&ots=9LIUDd_K2t&sig=fTQsWOU2IL87b-u7yxlNM1mdAh8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=T2HRUKuvK4ac2QWN5oG4Aw&ved=0CEcQ6AEwBA
>
Posted by Garland Coulson
Jan 13, 2013 at 06:24 AM
Ah, PC-Outline. My first outlining program. I loved this program. Simple, powerful and easy to use. It made all the outliners built into word processors look like crap. Recently I found I had a need for a simple outliner again so I am testing some out. But PC-Outline was certainly a useful tool in it’s time.
Posted by JimPivonka
May 29, 2013 at 06:09 AM
I have been a PC Outline user since the Fall of 1986, IIRC. I still use it, but find that the DOS window in Win XP is less congenial than the native PCO screen. My version has all the files associated with the program, all work in the Win XP environment.
Moving my PCO to Win 7 is worrisome, as I’ve not used Win 7 to support any DOS programs, and am not sure how to install them or set up the shortcuts so they will work properly.
(I have found this link, but its a small part of the total process: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/ff756590.aspx )
I have not found another outliner that works at all well for me. If there are any that come close to the level of PCO, I would like to know what they are, so I could check them out.
Thanks
Posted by Dr Andus
May 29, 2013 at 03:51 PM
JimPivonka wrote:
>I have not found another outliner that works at all well for me. If
>there are any that come close to the level of PCO, I would like to know
>what they are, so I could check them out.
I’ve never seen what PC Outline looks like (other than the screenshots here: http://www.danielsays.com/ss-gallery-dos-sw-pc-outline-334.html)
My suggestion would be Outline 4D, for the following reasons:
http://drandus.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/outline-4d-for-drafting-and-reverse-outlining/
But there are decent free outliners out there as well, such as Noteliner, UV Outliner, The Guide etc. It depends on the particular use, i.e. whether it’s for lists, short or long writing, whether it should be single-pane, or double-pane etc.
I can also recommend Bonsai: http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/4193/0/natara-bonsai—still-a-top-notch-outliner