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Posted by Stephen R. Diamond
Mar 6, 2007 at 09:21 PM
I think what you’re pointing out is that the Fans group was unmoderated and nominally open to everyone. But you were the owner. And you enforced censorship by expulsion from the list,certainly it my case, when you also gloated about it.
Posted by Jan Rifkinson
Mar 6, 2007 at 11:06 PM
Stephen R. Diamond wrote:
>I think what you’re pointing out is that the Fans group was unmoderated and nominally
>open to everyone. But you were the owner. And you enforced censorship by expulsion
>from the list,certainly it my case, when you also gloated about it.
I do not tolerate rudeness or personal attack on any list that I run. End of story.
Posted by Stephen R. Diamond
Mar 8, 2007 at 08:45 AM
Jan Rifkinson wrote:
nly it my case, when you also
>gloated about it.
>
>I do not tolerate rudeness or personal attack on any list that I
>run. End of story.
I see. Yet it is quite acceptable for YOU to call Eric Sommer a “Snake Oil Salesman,” which he is - but that’s not as bad as being a fool and a hypocrite, after all. You either don’t perceive the contradiction in your positions or you are so confident of your ability to survive in this environment, to be tolerated as if you were a reasonable and consistent person—that you are completely complacent that you will get away with it.
But “I will not tolerate” - and “End of Story” is much more the Jan I know, much more the REAL Jan—than what that cowardly hypocrite said here: “Censorship, & anyone who practices it, is a non starter in my book.”
Posted by Slartibartfarst
Dec 11, 2012 at 01:36 AM
Sorry to revive this old thread.
I read a reference to “ADM” in a separate thread in this OSF (Re: Core distinguishing features of two-pane PIMs - a comment by Posted by Daly de Gagne, Dec 10, 2012 at 12:14 AM).
http://www.outlinersoftware.com/topics/viewt/4626/5
I was very interested in Daly de Gagne’s comment and have been searching the ‘net on combinations and keywords including:
* ADM - Advanced Data Management
* Knowledge Management Software
* Eric Sommer CEO
* China
I have turned up quite a bit of information about ADM and Eric Sommer, mostly repetitive about ADM, and some personal stuff including a current résumé and a lonely hearts post, but that which I was after seems elusive - i.e. a download trial copy of ADM 3.0 (beta) - or later version, if there was one.
All the links to that source seem to be dead.
***Does anyone have a copy of it that I could have please? I’d like to do a “suck-it-and-see”, just out of interest.***
Thanks in anticipation.
By the way:
* I also came across a post by Eric Sommer asking for information regarding the .Net treelistview functionality - which could be potentially a very powerful report-writing function for PIM developers/users.
http://www.telerik.com/community/forums/silverlight/treelist/request-for-treelistview-features.aspx
* There were other posts/references regarding ES’ marketing of a concept for a Journalism tool that looked like it could probably be based on or use something like ADM, but the thread stopped dead and thus seems not to have got off the ground.
* I found ES referring to ADM having been based on a tool used for teaching (English, I think) for Chinese students (ES has apparently worked for 7+ years as an English Teacher - TSOL or similar - in China/Asia).
Posted by dan7000
Jan 20, 2013 at 01:15 AM
Once again reviving this thread. I needed to get some information I new was stored in an old ADM file and I found an old laptop that had a trial version of one of the last versions of ADM. Since it’s a trial I am assuming it’s ok to share. For SBF and anybody else who wants to try out ADM, I uploaded it here: http://kvisit.com/S6KzSAg
The trial expires after 30 days. Hopefully in that time I will export all of my old ADM files.