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Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Nov 4, 2010 at 09:07 PM
Thanks! I’ve actually been trying it out these last few days, and am impressed. I went for a network installation straight away—at home first on a Linux machine, and then at the office on a shared Windows PC. It is fast indeed. I have not tried it over internet yet.
I think your original post sums it up well; the simplicity, power and intuitiveness of Kerio’s interface are exemplary. I have refrained from suggesting other shared ‘knowledge base’ solutions, e.g. wikis, Sharepoint and the like, because I found them too cumbersome and long winded in their approach, and with a rather sharp learning curve. I always thought that there must be a simpler way, and I was right.
The main thing now is the cost and support. When you learn about their business plans, please post some info—you can reach me privately at adeliyannis [at] gmail [dot] com. I need to know if I’m betting on the right horse.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Nov 5, 2010 at 05:18 PM
Yes, I’m anxious about that, too! There are a couple of serious lacks that need sorting out before I shall be 100% reassured: although the system automatically backs itself up, there doesn’t appear to be any way to restore it(!). And while it automatically checks for upgrades/updates - it doesn’t automatically install them!
But it’s so polished otherwise - and other Kerio products have such a good reputation - that I suspect this will all be sorted out fairly quickly. At the moment they’re talking about a gold release sometime in Q1 2011.
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
May 10, 2011 at 12:11 PM
Well, I see Kerio Workspace is officially out of beta and that the price is quite attractive for an SME http://www.kerio.com/workspace/buy
(I’m sure Bill has seen this already, but I beat him to announcing it)
Posted by MadaboutDana
May 10, 2011 at 12:48 PM
You’re quite right, Alexander - and yes, we’re running the latest release here, as a matter of fact.
Much slimmed down, still with one significant flaw (which I’ve made them aware of to the extent that the poor developers are begging me to wait!) but - as ever - very, very fast (we still haven’t transferred it from the test laptop we installed it on originally - you honestly don’t notice that it’s not running on a proper machine!).
The flaw, which has to do with the way the search engine treats components in a page, is not too problematic, and the sheer speed and convenience of the excellent search function makes up for it, not least because the Solr/Lucene/Hibernate combo they use appears to be quite happy finding bits of text (i.e. not just full words), word stems (in a wide variety of languages) and Boolean phrases (provided they don’t straddle multiple components on a page) at enormous speed. Very impressive, and thoroughly recommended (as is the document preview function, provided courtesy of OpenOffice filters built into the server).
They’ve also tidied up the comments and “news” functions, which are much more manageable than before. And the price really is reasonable. I’m just looking forward to the ‘Advanced Search’ function I’m sure they’ll be including soon (if only to stop me harassing them!).
Cheers,
Bill
Posted by Edwin Yip
May 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Workflowy.com is interesting in that it has some unique UI design - zooming user interface, specifically - and it has inspired me as a developer of another outliner software.
But it’s still at its primitive stage, I think.
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Edwin Yip
Turn MS Word into a full-featured outliner software for writing large documents.
http://WritingOutliner.com