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Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Aug 7, 2010 at 11:30 AM
Addendum to the Twig post: Tinderbox/Twig do not have tagging in the usual sense, but you can create custom fields (known as attributes) and I have no doubt you can replicate tagging.
Steve
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Aug 7, 2010 at 02:28 PM
Thanks Stephen to you, and to others who are responding to my hypomanic flurry of posts as I try - stupidly, perhaps - to explore the whole landscape at once
I like the Neo features - possibly. But just as Tao substituted dates for me in a date column, so did Neo, albeit a more recent date. Maybe there are solutions. I don’t know.
But am realizing I need to be a little bit strategic and slow down a little, or with my ADHD and crimp tendencies nothing will get done.
I have identified a couple of things I can do with OO - track my reading, and use the budget template to track my spending and income.
I’d like to use it as a place to write short blog posts, keep a journal, and track articles, books, etc I read. The in-line text sections allow all of that.
Perhaps I was expecting too much - still looking for that program where info can be kept, writing done, outlines maintained, etc. Ironically, Evernote seems to come close to that.
For maintaining a database of information and documents, I am warming up to DevonThink. It seems very cool.
Though I downloaded Tinderbox last night, though I know Stephen you like it, I may lay off it for a while until I am more settled on the Mac.
Part of my problem, as you and Hugh have said, is I am coming back to Mac at a bad time because of emphasis on other platforms. But the other part of my problem is remembering, and perhaps through memory, inflating the merits of InControl.
I remember MORE - my PR boss, Jim Lewis, back in the mid-80s was a MORE aficionado, and considered a Mac portable because it had a carrying case, only weighed about 15 pounds, and could be slung over his shoulder.
Before I traded in a PC system for my first Mac in 1989, I had started to use Grandview but never got into it big time.
As always, I maintain ADM and Eric Somer had the best chance of making something very different, and to some extent succeeded. If I win the $11 million lotto in Manitoba tonight, I’ll look for Eric, and offer to invest (seriously).
I also find myself seriously wishing that Neville at Surfulater would do two things - develop a Mac version for his program, and give it inter-platform capability through the cloud.
Lastly, again I say, Evernote feels so much better on the Mac.
Thanks, guys, for putting up with my rambling rants.
Oh…one last thought - I have about a dozen programs open, am flipping back and forth, etc., the Mac has hardly slowed down. The hardware and Snow Leopard feel soliday, and the screen is the brightest and clearest I have ever seen.
And that’s on the entry level MacBook.
My guy at Staples (the friendliest big box store in the world is the Staples on Pembina in Winnipeg!) is a member of the Mac cult, as he says. He told me not to feel bad I couldn’t buy a MacBook Pro - “you won’t need it,” he said. “Unless you are a gamer.”
Daly
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>As far as I am aware, the only single-pane outliners featuring both custom columns and
>cloning are TAO and Tinderbox. Tinderbox is a bit pricey to be purchasing just as an
>outliner. But you might look at Tinderbox’s little brother, Twig. I think Twig’s
>outliner has all the power of Tinderbox, but at about a third of the price. If you do try
>Twig, be sure you are able to export your outlines satisfactorily. It seems Twig’s
>export capabilities are one of the areas in which its functions are reduced from the
>big application, and the big application doesn’t have the most intuitive export
>capabilities to begin with.
>
>http://www.eastgate.com/Twig/
>
>Steve
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Aug 7, 2010 at 09:58 PM
Daly,
You might find you can do with a journaling application like MacJournal. It is great for creating dated journal entries, of course, but you can also use it for all kinds of unrelated writing (for related writing—i.e. writing bits of pieces of a larger work—you can’t beat Scrivener). It doesn’t have custom columns, but it does allow you to display a number of built-in meta-data, including rating (one to five stars), priority, status, tags, and annotation (i.e. small notes). You may be able to replicate all that functionality in DevonThink, however. But it may be worth a look:
http://www.marinersoftware.com/products/macjournal/
Steve
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Aug 8, 2010 at 01:23 PM
Steve, thanks. I have just downloaded MacJournal. Will let you know how it works out.
Daly
Stephen Zeoli wrote:
>Daly,
>
>You might find you can do with a journaling application like MacJournal. It is
>great for creating dated journal entries, of course, but you can also use it for all
>kinds of unrelated writing (for related writing—i.e. writing bits of pieces of a
>larger work—you can’t beat Scrivener). It doesn’t have custom columns, but it does
>allow you to display a number of built-in meta-data, including rating (one to five
>stars), priority, status, tags, and annotation (i.e. small notes). You may be able to
>replicate all that functionality in DevonThink, however. But it may be worth a
>look:
>
>http://www.marinersoftware.com/products/macjournal/
>
>Steve
>