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Posted by Daly de Gagne
Feb 7, 2007 at 07:08 PM
Is there anyone here who is still on the ADM Developers list, and who may be able to provide an update on what is happening with ADM?
The last I heard, going back before the end of the year is that a new data base engine was being used to improve performance, and that the program was being re-coded.
I’m curious to try the next build of ADM, and see how it stacks up.
The irony is that some of us, who feel hat ADM is the cat’s meow, are scurrying around trying other programs, and lobbying for their developers to create features that make them more like ADM. These other programs are indeed good, and their developers are very responsive. But….
I have to admit that I am even trying out InfoSelect again, and finding that it has improved. Incidentally, this week I saw that Micro Logic is providing a free trail now for IS. That’s a good move on ML’s part.
Daly
Posted by Chris Murtland
Feb 7, 2007 at 07:11 PM
I’m still on the ADM dev list - the last message was posted Jan. 8 and was the one where Eric stated the list would now be moderated.
Chris
Posted by Jan Rifkinson
Feb 8, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Chris Murtland wrote:
>[snip] the last message was posted Jan. 8 and was the one where
>Eric stated the list would now be moderated.[/snip]
[rant] I think he meant ‘censored’ as there doesn’t seem to be much moderation. It’s Eric’s way or the highway, a sad commentary but typical of someone who has been co-opted by the fantasy of ultimate control . Shame on Google, Yahoo & a few others for helping the Chinese Gov’t keep track of their citizens & preventing them from searching certain ‘words’. Just cleaning house ahead of the 2008 Olympics. [/rant]
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Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Posted by Jan Rifkinson
Feb 8, 2007 at 11:42 AM
Daly de Gagne wrote:
>Is there anyone here who is still on the ADM Developers list, and who may be able to
>provide an update on what is happening with ADM? [snip]
>The irony is that some of us, who feel hat ADM is the cat’s meow,
>are scurrying around trying other programs, and lobbying for their developers to
>create features that make them more like ADM. [/snip]
Daly, The truly awful irony is that it was a lot of peoples’ lobbying & some Russian programmers that made ADM what it is today; the same people who have lost interest or have been excluded from its future for one reason or another.
BTW, if you look @ the Milenix Road Map for v4 (due in Q2 ‘07) I think a few bells will start ringing.
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Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield, CT USA
Posted by Daly de Gagne
Feb 8, 2007 at 04:40 PM
Jan, can you explain the reference to Russian programmers? When Eric was still in Canada, was the programming being outsourced from here, or are you talking about Russian immigrants to Canada who did the programming.
You are right—the input from a number of people helped to shape ADM. We had good discussions, sometimes spirited and rigourous, but it was all part of the creative process. I felt a loyalty to ADM at that point.
Re your rant from a previous post, I agree with your anger re Google and Yahoo caving in to the Chinese authorities, though they do not have a monopoly on human rights issues. I suspect a combination of work-related stresses and becoming acculturated has shifted Eric’s perspective on open discussionn.
Yes, I have been trying MyInfo—and I like it. I also like the roadmap for v4, and this morning added a list of my suggestions to the MI forum. Not surprisingly, like suggestions from yourself and others, some of them are similar to features in ADM.
At this stage I do not have much brand loyalty except to Zoot, which I believe is well worth waiting for in 32-bit form, to MDE InfoHhandler for housing professional and academic stuff, and to Surfulater which is, by far, the best web snippet clipper I have ever used.
Incidentally, some of us lobbied Kinook hard to consider hoisting in their next version and, to Kinook’s credit, they have said they will look at a simple hoisting system for the next version.
I cannot believe I am saying this, but if InfoSelect had a reliable set of metadata columns, hoisting, and cloning, I would probably use it. The hot spots, sorting bin (undocumented but a very neat feature), and ability to make forms, make IS attractive.
I think it is fair to say that there is a growing wave of creativity among outline programs; as consumers and staunch CRIMPERS, I think it is to our advantage to lobby the developers of these programs for features we value, and may the best programmers win!
Daly
Jan Rifkinson wrote:
>
>Daly, The truly awful irony is that it was a lot of
>peoples’ lobbying & some Russian programmers that made ADM what it is today; the same
>people who have lost interest or have been excluded from its future for one reason or
>another.
>
>BTW, if you look @ the Milenix Road Map for v4 (due in Q2 ‘07) I think a few
>bells will start ringing.
>
>—
>Jan Rifkinson
>Ridgefield, CT USA