A bit off topic ? Archivarius 3000

Started by Wojciech on 2/10/2010
Wojciech 2/10/2010 4:45 pm
Hi,
Some two years go Archivarius 3000 was discussed here vs. DtSearch. I have chosen the former, first, because of its constant development, i.e. adding new file formats, second because of its price. Today I wanted to downloaded new version. I didn?t have the bookmark so I tried to google it but suddenly got a message from Google saying that this was dangerous site, having ?Malicious software includes 18 trojan(s).? Has anybody experienced any such thing with the program or the site [www.likasoft.com]?
And another question. Do you know, by chance, whether Archivarius work fine on Windows 7 64 bit? Or could you, possibly, suggest another solution?
Thanks,
Wojciech

Alexander Deliyannis 2/10/2010 9:05 pm
No problems with the site at this point as far as I can tell; I entered it with both Opera and Internet Explorer equiped with ZoneAlarm Browser Security.

Firefox gave a warning based on the following page which mentions potential problems in the past:
http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://www.likasoft.com/

The information reads to me ambiguous enough to give Likasoft and its brilliant developer the benefit of the doubt:
"Over the past 90 days, likasoft.com did not appear to function as an intermediary for the infection of any sites."
"Yes, this site has hosted malicious software over the past 90 days."
"In some cases, third parties can add malicious code to legitimate sites, which would cause us to show the warning message."

As for the program, I can't recommend it enough; it's set to become an unmatched passe-partout for file indexing.

You can download Archivarius directly from the links below, ideally with an FTP program, thereby avoiding running any HTML code:

Version type: All languages
File size: 5 MB (9 minutes at 56 kbit/s)
http://www.likasoft.com/download/arch3000.exe

Version type: English only
File size: 4 MB (7 minutes at 56 kbit/s)
http://www.likasoft.com/download/arch3000-en.exe

Alexander Deliyannis 2/10/2010 9:13 pm
Information for the current version 4.27 (January 15, 2010) mentions the following supported platforms: Windows 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, 2003, Vista.

Wojciech 2/11/2010 3:08 pm
Alexander,
many thanks for your advice!
Wojciech
Derek Cornish 2/11/2010 6:54 pm
Wojciech,

I received the same Google/Firefox warnings some time ago when I wanted to investigate Archivarius's ability to index and search Zoot 5's databases, and display the search results properly. (If I recall correctly, dtSearch can index and search Zoot 5's files, but the search results are not displayed very well. Best results are only obtained if the Zoot 5 database files are first exported as a huge html file and then indexed and searched. Naturally, this is a royal pain to do if one uses Zoot intensively....)

Since I took heed of the warnings and did not investigate further, perhaps Archivarius's developer should be made aware of these problems with access to his website. I can't think of anything morel likely to scare off potential customers.

In the event, Zoot 6 has changed the form of its databases and they can now be indexed and searched, and the results displayed very well in dtSearch - without any prior database file conversion. For me this was another reason both for keeping on with dtSearch and moving over to Zoot 6.

Derek
Wojciech 3/20/2010 1:59 pm


Derek Cornish wrote:
In the event, Zoot 6 has changed the form of its databases and
they can now be indexed and searched, and the results displayed very well in dtSearch -
without any prior database file conversion. For me this was another reason both for
keeping on with dtSearch and moving over to Zoot 6.

Derek,
I am sorry for being so late in thanking you for your comment. I needed several weeks to decide whether I should add Zoot to my information processing instrumentation and finally refrained from it. I have my staff in many (I should say: *too* many) various PIMs and hesitate to start another change in my working habits.
Anyhow, thank you very much.

Wojciech 3/20/2010 2:06 pm
Alexander,

I visited the homepage of Archivarius yesterday and everything was OK ? no single warning. Thus, I downloaded the most recent version 4.29 and sent it to Virus Total

http://www.virustotal.com

for checking. One out of some 40 antivirus engines accepted it but Symantec marked as suspicious:

Symantec 20091.2.0.41 2010.03.19 Suspicious.Insight

What do you think about it?

Cheers!
Alexander Deliyannis 3/20/2010 10:16 pm
Wojciech,

I personally wouldn't worry, as the explanation is probably quite simple: Archivarius probably includes patterns / templates for the multitude of files that it can index, and some of these may be considered unfavourably by Symantec.

I do suggest that you inform the developer; he may be able to find a solution.

Cheers

Wojciech 3/21/2010 3:49 pm
Alexander,

many thanks. Yes, I will contact the developer, also because I would like to ask him for even more file formats to be indexed :)

All the best,

Wojciech
critStock 3/22/2010 1:41 am
Archivarius looks great. I've downloaded the trial and find it very promising. Sadly, the trial version limits the number of files you can index, which makes it pretty hard to evaluate, in my view. One of the primary factors in choosing a search app is how well it performs with a real-world quantity of files. Kind of bummed about that....
quant 3/22/2010 1:18 pm
A3000 is great, I can fully recommend it, used it for index lots of data (and still use it if I don't need complicated searches).

Two downsides, which forced me to move to dtsearch:
1.
you cannot combine different type of searches:
For example imagine you search for phrase "smaller chance" that is close to word "probability", you can search for phrase, you can search for close words, but you cannot type ["smaller chance" probability]
2.
you cannot specify in the "proximity search" for far apart the words that you search for can be from each other (I think it's hardcoded to 10)

dtsearch allows both, but then it's muuuuuuuch more expensive
critStock 3/22/2010 3:12 pm
@quant: Thanks for the report on A3000. I have been using X1 pretty happily. I'm not a very sophisticated searcher, but it does seem to have at least some of the complex search features you need. (E.g., you can specify proximity and sequence of paired search terms.) My desire is always to get more file types searched--esp. my database/outliner files, like UltraRecall, Evernote, and more recently, Surfulater. Ergo: still CRIMPing!