I have been working with beta versions of FoldNotes (https://foldnotes.io and am quite impressed. FoldNotes is native Swift apps on Mac and iOS with iCloud sync.

The developer (who is quite responsive) describes it as Markdown notes that fold.

Daily Notes, Queries, Database views, Graphs; they are all there. He says he built the app for his personal needs and it has been a daily driver for over 2 years. Now he is building it up for public consumption, and it is a nice environment to work in.

I have migrated my work from Obsidian to FoldNotes. I had Obsidian built to meet my needs but the key word there is "built." I am a writer and worker, not a builder. I seek to get work done (difficult with my CRIMPing obsession, but possible.) FoldNotes grabbed for its native environment, and as I work with it I become more and more impressed with the capabilities.

One really neat trick is, on iOS, native Bike files can be edited in place, meaning you can have an iPad/iPhone Bike file editor today. Edit the file, changes are made to the actual Bike file, not a copy (that is the definition of Edit in Place.)

Sounds pretty cool; I've had a sniff. As an inveterate Obsidian "builder", I confess I find it less exciting than creating my optimal working environment in Obsidian; having foresworn DataView, I rely on much simpler, more direct solutions, and I find this keeps me – more or less – on the straight and narrow...

Also, I'm not a fan of apps that use monospaced fonts as their primary option. I mean, why? There are so many attractive, easy-to-read fonts out there. I guess it reminds me (too much) of good ole' programmer-driven apps back in DOS days... nope, I'm not nostalgic for those at all!

I see that the official version of Fold Notes is out of beta. Has anyone who has been using Fold Notes have any insights about it?

Yes, I downloaded the macOS version, played with it for a hour and deleted it. It reminds me strongly of NValt. I didn't see anything compelling or new. Some bugs, like inserting a wikilink in a note then clicking it to create a new linked note -- pretty vanilla feature nowadays. It fails.

MojoPad costs 50% of FoldNote and makes FoldNote look like "my first Basic app".

Stephen Zeoli wrote:

I see that the official version of Fold Notes is out of beta. Has anyone who has been using Fold Notes have any insights about it?

On the other hand, I've just discovered the amazing Skein Notes, a free app programmed by Tomasz in Brighton (UK). Skein Notes and his pure markdown editor Lede can be downloaded from the Mac App Store, but so can a couple of paying apps, Verso and Nought, that can edit .docx and .xlsx files respectively – without disrupting them.

I'll put this info in a separate topic, in case anyone wants to investigate!

Cheers!
Bill

FoldNotes Dev here

Thanks for giving it an hour - that's fair, and FoldNotes won't be for everyone.

On the wikilink: in the editor, clicking a [[link]] to a note that doesn't exist yet should ask whether to create it, and then open the new note (there's a setting to skip the question). In Preview, links to notes that don't exist yet are shown as plain text on purpose, so they can't be followed there. If it failed for you in the editor, I'd really like to know how, and I'll fix it.

On nvALT: I loved nvALT too, but FoldNotes is closer to an outliner that happens to use Markdown. The idea is folding - collapse any heading or indented section, hoist one chapter to work in on its own, and treat a long document as its outline - with tasks that live inside your notes, database views, and Bike outlines edited in place. All in plain .md files.

Paul Korm wrote:

Yes, I downloaded the macOS version, played with it for a hour and deleted it. It reminds me strongly of NValt. I didn't see anything compelling or new. Some bugs, like inserting a wikilink in a note then clicking it to create a new linked note -- pretty vanilla feature nowadays. It fails.

One advantage of FoldNotes over MojoPad (which is amazing) is that FoldNotes has iOS versions. I don't think MojoPad does as yet, though I am sure they are on the horizon.