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Posted by Backbutton
Apr 4, 2011 at 02:19 AM
I just installed Grandview on an XP laptop, and onto a Vista 64 bit laptop.
On the XP laptop, the installation was OK, couldn’t run, but I think I can fix. Did it would 3 1/2 floppies.
On the Vista 64, no floppy drive, so I copy it over on USB and placed the files on C:\GV. Got into Dos Prompt and tried to install, but got message of incompatibility with 64 bit Windows.
I really would like to run GV on Vista & Windows 7. Years ago, I used System Commander and had a multi-boot system that I could boot into DOS 6.22. I think System Commander is discontinued, and will not support Vista or Win 7—I would hate to have to do all the work to install a mutli-boot program to get straight DOS—I have two 320 GB HD’s with lots of data and programs, and it would take a lot and risk a lot in trying to move stuff around, or even having to reformat the HD to create new partition.
Could I use a DOS boot CD? I don’t understand—the DOS Prompt is still in Windows 64 OS, how do I get to just DOS?
Thanks
Posted by Cassius
Apr 14, 2011 at 01:20 AM
Backbutton wrote:
>I just installed Grandview on an XP laptop, and onto a Vista 64 bit laptop.
>
>On the XP
>laptop, the installation was OK, couldn’t run, but I think I can fix. Did it would 3 1/2
>floppies.
>
>On the Vista 64, no floppy drive, so I copy it over on USB and placed the
>files on C:\GV. Got into Dos Prompt and tried to install, but got message of
>incompatibility with 64 bit Windows.
>
>I really would like to run GV on Vista & Windows
>7. Years ago, I used System Commander and had a multi-boot system that I could boot into
>DOS 6.22. I think System Commander is discontinued, and will not support Vista or Win
>7—I would hate to have to do all the work to install a mutli-boot program to get
>straight DOS—I have two 320 GB HD’s with lots of data and programs, and it would take a
>lot and risk a lot in trying to move stuff around, or even having to reformat the HD to
>create new partition.
>
>Could I use a DOS boot CD? I don’t understand—the DOS Prompt
>is still in Windows 64 OS, how do I get to just DOS?
>
>Thanks
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It is my understanding that DOS in Win XP and later (and maybe also in Win 2000) isn’t really DOS as we and GrandView knew it. If it were, GV would work fine in the so-called Win 3.1 compatibility mode. I seem to remember that Win 3.1 was built on top of the real DOS.
Again, I don’t recommend running GV in later versions of Windows. It is too much of a pain. Inspiration or one of the other single-pane outliners recently suggested may be more satisfying although GV certainly had more features. (DON’T use NoteMap!)
Posted by Alexander Deliyannis
Apr 14, 2011 at 08:36 PM
Cassius wrote:
> It is my understanding that DOS in Win XP and later (and maybe also in Win 2000) isn?t really DOS as we and GrandView knew it.
> If it were, GV would work fine in the so-called Win 3.1 compatibility mode. I seem to remember that Win 3.1 was built on top of the real DOS.
Right you are; Windows up to 95/98 was a graphic environment atop the DOS shell. Windows NT / 2000 / XP and onwards is a self standing operating system. This system provides a non-graphical environment, but even though you can use DOS commands there, it is still Windows.
Your best bet for DOS programs are probably the command line environments mentioned earlier in this thread, i.e. DOSBOX and tcc/le. There might be others, such as 4DOS http://www.4dos.info/