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Outline with rows and columns?
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Posted by Hugo
Aug 5, 2009 at 11:20 PM
Pierre Paul Landry wrote:
>You could use IQ to create a grid as in your
>mock-up. Shift-enter adds a line-break. You can also bold text, etc, but no bullets. I
>do not think it is a very good application for what you want however.
>
>To use IQ for this
>kind of work, I would add sub-items under each item, and either (1) enter the content
>there or (2) use the HTML pane. Use a column to qualify what revision it is (first draft,
>second, ... final). Filtering will allow you to view / print / export each version
>separately.
Interesting. I will have to look into this some more. I agree with your conclusion thought.
>One question… when the content of
>cells are large (i.e. many paragraphs), this system still works for you?
With small font sizes, large screen sizes, large paper sizes, some horizontal scrolling: yes, it works.
It did not work great, but I found it useful.
it is a hack thought, and it all breaks down if there are figures and tables in the text.
>Printing each version is however not possible with Word
Printing an individual version was actually possible in Word too:
copy the specific column into a new document, convert table to text, adjust font size.
What word is lacking are the actual outliner capabilites. Word has a good basic outline mode, but not within tables.
So I cannot hide and manipulate individual subtrees on command, and neither can I hide individual columns easily.
Posted by Chris Thompson
Aug 6, 2009 at 02:14 AM
If you’re on Windows, I’d suggest using OneNote. You’ll need a one-row table per paragraph if you want to keep collapsing and expanding items, but in OneNote that’s easy enough… just pressing tab after typing something creates a one row table and adds a column.
I saw a new Mac outliner a couple of months ago that allowed precisely this… essentially outlining with collapsability either vertically (like a conventional outliner) or horizontally, simultaneously. It makes better use of space. The name of that program escapes me at the moment. There’s also a Windows program that divides your page into boxes and subboxes, which is a similar idea, but its outlining capability is a little weak. You might also consider OmniOutliner, which is a columnar outliner. Like InfoQube, you have to press a key+enter to enter line breaks when you’re in columns.
—Chris
Posted by Stephen Zeoli
Aug 6, 2009 at 03:39 AM
Chris Thompson wrote:
>I saw a new Mac outliner a couple of months ago that allowed precisely
>this… essentially outlining with collapsability either vertically (like a
>conventional outliner) or horizontally, simultaneously. It makes better use of
>space. The name of that program escapes me at the moment.
Chris, I think you’re thinking of Top of Tree: http://www.topoftree.jp/en/tree/
Steve
Posted by L. S. Russell
Aug 6, 2009 at 06:43 AM
I use TreeSheets for this very thing. http://treesheets.com/
Another I tried is Matrex, I found it on sourceforge. http://sourceforge.net/projects/matrex/ but it is really for working with data rather than text.
Posted by Tom S.
Aug 6, 2009 at 11:38 AM
Take a look at Notecase. Its got some of this capability.
Tom S.