I'll try not to make this a rant, but I was trying to help some family members who are planning to visit put together an itinerary as well as offer some suggestions they could consider during their visit. I know this can easily be done by many programs if I they are only offered read-only access. But I would like them to be able to interact with the information, not unlike when people use a whiteboard, without them having to register for an account. Some programs offer this feature, but only with a paid or premium tier subscription. As this is a one-off need, I really do not want to subscribe to a year of another program. Does any body have any suggestions for a program that I can use to put up links and notes for people to review and possibly move to a calendar or board so they can plan their itinerary with the information I initially provide, and that can be done on their end without having to register (ideally through a link I can provide).

Thanks,

--Ken

Google Calendar + Google Docs. (Plus probably a group text-chain.)

You can create a shared Google Calendar that lets anyone add and edit events. After creating the calendar, click on its name in the left sidebar and select "Settings and sharing". Scroll down to the "Share with specific people or groups" section and click "Add people and groups". Add the email addresses of the individuals or the Google Group you want to share the calendar with. From the permissions dropdown, select "Make changes to events" or "Make changes and manage sharing" to allow group members to create and edit items.

And Google Docs has long had live editing of files for multiple people.

I think most people on the planet have a Google login now, especially if you watch YouTube, and it's not onerous to create a Google account.

Also look at Wanderlog, which at least used to offer free tier that allows you to plan trips, collaborate with others in real-time, and view your itinerary on a map. You can add notes and links to your stops, and your family members can collaborate on the itinerary without needing to create an account, as long as you share the link with them. You start by creating a new trip on Wanderlog's web tool or app, adding destinations, activities, and notes without needing an account initially. You can then invite family members to collaborate by sharing the trip link via email. They can view and edit the itinerary in real-time, similar to Google Docs. Using drag-and-drop you can rearrange activities and view your itinerary on a map to visualize the trip.

If you or one of your collaborators has a Craft license (or a Setapp subscription, from which Craft can be installed), then it is pretty simple to create and share a document that anyone can edit whether they have a license or not. The shared document is accessed in a browser using a link the document creator sends them. I like Craft for this because it makes pleasant looking documents that are easy to modify. Once the sharing is finished, the creator can either delete that sharing link, or turn the document to view-only.

As a LONG time travel agent, I have accumulated many sites that can fit your needs.

Here are three to check out:

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Planapple helps you create, organize, access and share all your vacation plans
https://www.planapple.com/

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Travel planning made easy.
https://www.travelmuse.com/

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MyTripJournal is a free personal travel website, where you can journal or blog your trips.
Read other travellers' experiences, and share your own
https://www.mytripjournal.com/

The other links I sent you most likely will work best, but another option is Zoho Notebook.
https://www.zoho.com/notebook/

You can throw about anything into it.

Sharing a notebook. Info about how that is done is below.

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Co-Work in Notebook
https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/kb/notebook/sharing-and-collaboration/articles/co-work-in-notebook-18-8-2022#Share_note_cards

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Share your notes
https://help.zoho.com/portal/en/kb/notebook/sharing-and-collaboration/articles/share-your-notes-18-8-2022

Lots of great suggestions, thanks! I know my family members visiting use Google, so some of those tools can be an option. I'll look at it in more detail, but what I had envisioned was something similar to Walling or Milanote - programs that allowed me to create bookmarks or "cards" with information that people can move around or comment on. I want to offer them a variety of activities since I am not sure what they want to or what kind of food they wish to eat when visiting. I will also explore the links to the other programs mentioned. I have Zoho Notebook, but have moved on to UpNote as I prefer its clipping abilities.

Thanks again for the suggestions!

--Ken

Paul Korm wrote:

If you or one of your collaborators has a Craft license (or a Setapp
subscription, from which Craft can be installed), then it is pretty
simple to create and share a document that anyone can edit whether they
have a license or not. The shared document is accessed in a browser
using a link the document creator sends them. I like Craft for this
because it makes pleasant looking documents that are easy to modify.
Once the sharing is finished, the creator can either delete that sharing
link, or turn the document to view-only.

I think, to a degree, we may have a partial solution. I am trialing Craft and they have moved me to paid features for 14 days, so I cannot be sure of what I may or may not lose when it reverts. But it does allow commenting without signing up. It does not allow moving around blocks, but with commenting, I may be able to get close to what I want without a subscription. I have never played around with Craft before, and it seems like a pretty powerful program. Thanks again for the recommendation.

--Ken

I hope it helps meet your needs, Ken.

Craft at first blush looks like a sort of Pinterest wanna-be, but under the surface are some interesting features.

Er, Craft can indeed move blocks around, either by dragging and dropping (hover over a block, you’ll see a “handle” on the left-hand side) or using keyboard shortcuts (Option+Command+up/down arrow). In fact, blocks and their flexibility is what Craft is all about. You can drop blocks onto days in the calendar, you can move blocks between documents – it’s extremely powerful on that score.

Ken wrote:

I think, to a degree, we may have a partial solution. I am trialing
Craft and they have moved me to paid features for 14 days, so I cannot
be sure of what I may or may not lose when it reverts. But it does
allow commenting without signing up. It does not allow moving around
blocks, but with commenting, I may be able to get close to what I want
without a subscription. I have never played around with Craft before,
and it seems like a pretty powerful program. Thanks again for the
recommendation.

MadaboutDana wrote:

Er, Craft can indeed move blocks around, either by dragging and dropping
(hover over a block, you’ll see a “handle” on the
left-hand side) or using keyboard shortcuts (Option+Command+up/down
arrow). In fact, blocks and their flexibility is what Craft is all
about. You can drop blocks onto days in the calendar, you can move
blocks between documents – it’s extremely powerful on
that score.

Ken wrote:
>I think, to a degree, we may have a partial solution. I am trialing
>Craft and they have moved me to paid features for 14 days, so I cannot
>be sure of what I may or may not lose when it reverts. But it does
>allow commenting without signing up. It does not allow moving around
>blocks, but with commenting, I may be able to get close to what I want
>without a subscription. I have never played around with Craft before,
>and it seems like a pretty powerful program. Thanks again for the
>recommendation.

Yes, there are a number of programs that easily allow blocks to be moved around. What I was wanting was the ability of a guest to move blocks around using a link and not having to create an account to do that. Few programs seem to offer this, and if they do, it is with their premium price packages.

--Ken

--Ken

Ah yes, I see. Well, there’s always Obsidian ;-)

MadaboutDana wrote:

Ah yes, I see. Well, there’s always Obsidian ;-)

That is on my list after I spend a bit more time with Craft.

--Ken

I’ve just finally succumbed to CRIMPtation and subscribed to Obsidian Sync (the lower tier), and I must say, it makes a big difference. No more complex attempts at cross-syncing from GitHub (Obsidian on iOS only supports iCloud!). So all my personal task management, journaling etc. has gone back into Obsidian (acreom, alas, no longer seems to be actively developed – such a shame, it was such a nice app). Fortunately, focusing on file/folder/markdown-based task managers means transferring data from one to the other is very straightforward.

Ken wrote:

MadaboutDana wrote:
Ah yes, I see. Well, there’s always Obsidian ;-)

That is on my list after I spend a bit more time with Craft.

--Ken