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Posted by Dormouse
Oct 4, 2023 at 07:50 AM
mkasu wrote:
Tangent Notes seems very interesting. It’s also almost fascinating how
>niche it is. I couldn’t find virtually any materials on it except their
>own website and Discord channel.
>
>I played around with it for a bit and it seems kind of interesting, but
>it’s also a workflow I wouldn’t want to grow too accustomed to
>because I’d worry the app might be discontinued at some point. As a
>user, I think it would make more sense to have this kind of idea as an
>open source Obsidian plugin as it could integrate well into the rest of
>the Obsidian eco system. Also, then the author wouldn’t need to make a
>whole new editor nor need to worry about features like sync or mobile
>clients
iirc Taylor started developing it because he wasn’t happy with the speed of Obsidian’s keyboard entry, so he needed a new editor. It’s easy to use Obsidian to plug any gaps, which mitigates concerns about sync or mobile or even discontinuation.
Philosophically it’s at the other end of the spectrum from Obsidian’s plugin heavy system. Options are few, it doesn’t slavishly follow markdown specs (tab does not produce a code block).
I don’t worry about longevity myself. Some of the longest lived projects I know are passion projects developed for the developer’s own use. And experience has taught me that open source rarely produces a neat handover when a lead developer stops.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Oct 4, 2023 at 01:24 PM
Thanks for that tip! Excalibrain sounds really interesting. I’m enjoying Tangent, and there are some nice ideas coming along in the near future, but I’m not anxious to move lock, stock and barrel away from the (very powerful, flexible) Obsidian just yet!
mkasu wrote:
Tangent Notes seems very interesting. It’s also almost fascinating how
>niche it is. I couldn’t find virtually any materials on it except their
>own website and Discord channel.
>
>I played around with it for a bit and it seems kind of interesting, but
>it’s also a workflow I wouldn’t want to grow too accustomed to
>because I’d worry the app might be discontinued at some point. As a
>user, I think it would make more sense to have this kind of idea as an
>open source Obsidian plugin as it could integrate well into the rest of
>the Obsidian eco system. Also, then the author wouldn’t need to make a
>whole new editor nor need to worry about features like sync or mobile
>clients.. But well, if it is a passion project I can definitely see the
>appeal.
>
>Personally, I used to use TheBrain 13 until recently but I’m a bit
>annoyed by their recent focus on AI tools in v14 (there’s so many issues
>and requests which should be fixed first, but it seems to make more
>business sense to jump on the AI hype…). I went back to Obsidian and
>use it extensively in combination with the ExcaliBrain plugin which is
>essentially reimplementing some ideas from TheBrain in Obsidian. You can
>make similar maps as in TangentNote with “previous note” “next note”
>relationships. It is also more structured than Obsidian’s standard graph
>view because you can have different link types and then automatically
>have them appear in a certain direction (“parent links” always above,
>“child links” always below, previous/next to left/right etc.) Of course,
>it’s much more manual because you need to define links and their types
>to get most out of it..
>
Posted by JDS
Oct 5, 2023 at 06:01 PM
I also had trouble finding any materials. I kept coming up with lessons on tangents in geometry, which is most definitely NOT what I was looking for. Sorry to go off on a tangent…
mkasu wrote:
Tangent Notes seems very interesting. It’s also almost fascinating how
>niche it is. I couldn’t find virtually any materials on it except their
>own website and Discord channel.
Posted by Tumbleweed
Nov 16, 2023 at 04:04 PM
I’ve been using Heptabase for a while now, and I think it checks all boxes. Except for email and a proper calendar, ie. Outlook.
They have added some more powerful features, such as the ability to add “folders” on the sidebar, which can hold whiteboards, cards, tags, etc. Then you can make “tag groups” which are essentially workspaces for things, ie. personal, business, etc. It has added another new dimension to the product! Here’s an overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9eBuf9Lx30
The sidebar also has “Task” item now, which gives all unchecked checkboxes in your database. They still plan to add the two things I mentioned to them, namely 1) Tags need multiple select or all to see attributes that span tags and 2) Open files/email with native app. These are on their roadmap.
The ease of use is amazing. And the PDF features are also outstanding. I am using it for everything now, not just notes and learning, but for meetings, project planning, tasks, references, articles, goals, weekly review, etc. The tag items were very odd to me in the beginning; however, I’ve always thought that a properly planned tool wouldn’t need tags. So in Heptabase, using tags to track those specific info items, like meeting notes, logging doctor’s appointments, daily journal entries, etc.
Again, the only other organization app I’m using is Outlook (with NEOPro and Close Contact for enhanced features). I’m slowly moving over my notes from UltraRecall and RightNote. The main negative with Heptabase is that as a todo/project manager it is not particularly powerful, so Outlook with the now free Taskline addin can suit that need in my “two-app system”.
Posted by Tumbleweed
Mar 5, 2024 at 03:27 PM
I totally changed my mind on this. I’m going back to Obsidian.
Heptabase is great for organizing info for a huge knowledge manager. But they don’t seem interested in Zotero integration, lack multi-tag select for organization, and you can’t link files to open natively.
Fired up my old Obsidian and it just has many more options, although ease of use is not like Heptabase.