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Posted by steve-rogers
Jul 16, 2023 at 04:03 PM
Cool! I use Popclip all the time for text manipulation, but had not come across that extension, so thanks for that. Know of an equivalent for iOS?
satis wrote:
steve-rogers wrote:
>> my favorite feature is a very nice web page markdown import
>> feature that’s activated via browser extensions
>
>For amost a decade I’ve used a PopClip
>https://pilotmoon.com/popclip/
>
>extension
>https://brettterpstra.com/2013/12/23/web-markdownifier-for-popclip/
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>for that; it enables use on any text anywhere.
Posted by satis
Jul 16, 2023 at 07:19 PM
steve-rogers wrote:
>Know of an equivalent
>for iOS?
Terpstra says on his PopClip extension page that it is based on his Marker bookmarklet
https://brettterpstra.com/2013/12/22/marker-web-selections-to-markdown/
but I don’t know if it still works (or has been updated) after a decade. At any rate it *might* work on mobile Safari.
I don’t use iOS bookmarklets but prior to the use of Share Extensions they used to be popular. Not sure if it still works, but you create a bookmark, then edit it by pasting in the bookmarklet Javascript. Here’s a 2013 collection of bookmarklets for iOS that someone compiled
https://www.labnol.org/software/iphone-ipad-bookmarklets/18969/
Posted by Dellu
Jul 17, 2023 at 06:31 AM
Adopting markdown format and storing it in an internal database is just pointless to me.
I trashed Bear within the first few minutes I downloaded it.
Posted by Dormouse
Jul 17, 2023 at 09:42 AM
Dellu wrote:
>Adopting markdown format and storing it in an internal database is just
>pointless to me.
But it’s become a very popular design decision. Though usually with added coloured text and underlining. Writemonkey 3 was possibly one of the first to do it, but added the ability to sync with markdown files so there was never a need to rely on the json database. And others (eg Heptabase) will do daily backups to markdown files.
It feels that some of them just use markdown as a marketing ploy.
Personally I’m going the other way. Recently switched all my writing (but not notes) to Word; rich text in files.
Posted by MadaboutDana
Jul 17, 2023 at 10:21 AM
Ha, this more or less describes my position – except I also use Bear to capture interesting web pages (although more and more, I rely on History Book to do that automatically). The Bear extension for Safari is very good (but then, UpNote’s extension is also good, and available for other browsers as well).
I was underwhelmed by their folding, although there is a convenient keyboard shortcut. But compared with e.g. Obsidian, it’s relatively clunky. You can, of course, capture web pages to Obsidian as well, if you really want to (there’s a plugin for that ;-)).
But Bear remains a very good-looking app, with an excellent search function and a very elegant handling of hierarchical tags (although here again, Obsidian is just as capable). So like @Paul, I’m reluctant to get rid of it (especially since I subscribe at the original price).
Paul Korm wrote:
I haven’t seen a head-to-head comparison, but it seems that Apple Notes
>under iOS/macOS 17 will be pretty much on par with Bear 2.
>
>I love Bear. It is a beautiful app. But development is the most
>glacial of any competitor. Sometimes it seems that Bear is developed
>during an occasional coffee break by someone whose day job requires a
>lot of travel away from the office.
>
>I’m luck to have legacy pricing on Bear Pro, and just for nostalgia I
>keep Bear in my Mac’s dock and on the first page of my iPhone, but I
>rarely use it. Time was, Bear was the best way to capture notes with
>images, but that time passed by Bear long long ago. Obsidian on the
>phone is a cluster and best avoided, but Notes is good, and Agenda is
>excellent and surpassed Bear’s feature set years ago.
>
>But, I still love Bear, if only to look at it from time to time.