By WHAT do you (in parallels) structure? (woof-woof!)

Posted by 22111
Sep 3, 2022 at 11:49 AM

About LEO.org (and some other things)

For my translation needs, I use a second “instance” of my main web browser, Firefox, so that I’m able, with the help of some macros, to look up the “right” word almost immediately. (I think I have commented on that almost-scam (sic! speaking of their web dictionary access here, not about their “Plus” or whatever they call it access to their own material) “WordWeb” here, some time ago?)

My very first website*, in this respect and up to now, has been leo.org (”.org”: sic!: implied: “we are a public service!”- hahaha!), since at the end of the day, it was even just that little bit better than dict.cc - which in itself if tremendously good indeed; thus, dict.cc come “second-place” for me, i.e. firefox ^2, with leo.org being ^1 (and so on, with diminishing returns…).

Now, leo.“org” is rent-only, or then “with ads”, but you’ll get that “allow with ads” interference with EVERY SINGLE look-up now, if you use an ad-blocker at least, as I do… well: “of course!”...

Whilst dict.cc is one man in Vienna (Austria) - seriously: I don’t know HOW he does it, but WHAT he’s been doing for many years, is just wonderful! -, leo.org is three men and their corporation in Munich (Germany), and as implied above, their work up-to-now has been really, really good, too, but now they’ve become more than just a little bit greedy, it seems… (and as proven by direct comparison with dict.cc)...

When I finally decided myself to “adopt” an Android “smartphone” (it’s called “smart” because those really smart people behind the business model get, and store, almost all aspects of your private life), I decided to buy - but NOT rent! - “a” good dictionary, and a csv viewer; as detailed “above”, i.e. in some other thread, the latter purchase (well, 3€...) was a total failure… - and then I discovered that free “app” which serves me well, and in the meantime, I have even discovered its phrase search, albeit a regular “AND” search seems impossible with it indeed…

Thus, and needing German, French, English in all permutations, I did my necessary, “Android” “apps”, research, and then quickly discovered that leo.org was / is rent there - obviously, they had introduced their rent scheme in Android (and allegedly iWhatever) before their now-rent “desktop” scheme, too, and furthermore, rent by any permutation, one-by-one, which would have been not 3 but 5 rentals in my case… so, “go to hell!”.

Instead, I paid 10€, one-time-payment, for dict.cc, for my 5 permutations, and whenever I need some other language duo, e.g. including some Dutch, I can invoke it for the very same price, and the “superiority” of leo.org over dict.cc being just imperceptible, most of the time…

Btw, when you search such translations for google, you invariably get linguee.com which is really bad, and bab.la which only could be considered “acceptable” if they weren’t both dict.cc or leo.org, but which, facts being as they are, is without any interest, too, as some more “hits” among google’s “top ten”... but if you “search” by google, pons.com is often in the very first place, whilst dict.cc is sixth or such, and that’s outrageous indeed: does google give a hang, or is it paid then?

Oh, and for journalists that don’t inform, but frame you, there is a just wonderful German expression, “Mietmaul” (or “Mietmäuler” in their plural, and which’s to be translated by “rent mug”)...

I’m very happy with my “Android apps” choice, which cost me 13€, incl. the 3€ thrown away for that first, worthless csv viewer, and I’d be happy to also pay 10€ for my second, current one…

Well, you can use such “apps” even without “SIM” cards active… hahaha - so don’t pretend I “finally gave in”... ;-)

As said, and for desktop / web use, langenscheidt.com is really first class, too, whilst e.g. pons.com (which owns Langenscheidt now but has always been inferior to its prey and by far) is not worth mentioning…

* = I also own 20- or 25-years old licenses of Langenscheidt-desktop E-D, F-D and S-D, unfortunately not also their equally brilliant I-D version, but I have to live with that, and, cherio!, those 3 software packages always run on Win10! And there’s also some dictionaries and thesauri which I bought in the past, whilst for example “Le Grand Robert” is now rented out at somewhat literally demential prices! - go a legitimate license from some old package though, but French isn’t relevant anymore indeed…

Now for vocabulary questions

Sometimes, the translation might even be spot-on… but then, it’s the translation that will you the “necessary”, highly welcome ride to further insight, and so, when thinking (even more, haha…) about outlining, the term of “trame” popped up for me, whilst what I know might also “correct” terms, hadn’t “done it” for me and so far: the respective “representation in your mind” of those terms obviously is different, and that’s the key.

Remember what I said some weeks ago here, “ONE MORE ANGLE”... and it’s just the willingness, too, and to begin with, which is the core element here, and then your “brainstorming” will be a matter of multiple techniques, and obviously, musing in some other languages than just your very first one might help.

Since the “essence” is just the plenty of the real core elements, and if you don’t strive for that, nobody can help your thinking, but those-in-power obviously can you help financially as long as you blow their horn, and if you believe for example the legislators when they label even some very superficial groping “carnal KNOWLEDGE” - just is just one but indicative example of course -, your “author’s journey” will miserably end already in the front yard of what you might call your “rationale home” - well, and for plebs: your “horizon”...

And if you wanna know WHY people think, write, act so short-sighted: they’re just obscenely and even mentally, conceptually lazy - well, they erroneously assume that thinking is hard work, while only finding justifications for lies is -, or as Thomas Sowell worded it,

“Much of the social history of the Western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked with what sounded good.”

And, fun fact: this citation is 100 per cent woke!