A New Windows Outliner (?)
Posted by chris
on 8/3/2000
chris
8/3/2000 12:18 pm
I used some of the very first and have quite forgotten all their names - Brown Bag Software is one of them I think, so too is PC Outline. I loved them.
Yes, outliners are everywhere in modern Windows software but none of them do what the old stuff did for me. A simple(?) port of Grandview to Windows would be wonderful. I followed the correspondence around Symnatec's promises to do something with it for a while then lost heart.
I built a career with the help of being the first kid on the block to use an outliner - I was so much better organised than the competition! Mind map stuff has got lost in Academia - I do use Vismap but it has not kept up - so there is a marketing opportunity I feel.
I would put real money - not too much - on the table if someone with the skills and the energy to develop a real Windows, dedicated outliner were to emerge.
Chris Knight
Yes, outliners are everywhere in modern Windows software but none of them do what the old stuff did for me. A simple(?) port of Grandview to Windows would be wonderful. I followed the correspondence around Symnatec's promises to do something with it for a while then lost heart.
I built a career with the help of being the first kid on the block to use an outliner - I was so much better organised than the competition! Mind map stuff has got lost in Academia - I do use Vismap but it has not kept up - so there is a marketing opportunity I feel.
I would put real money - not too much - on the table if someone with the skills and the energy to develop a real Windows, dedicated outliner were to emerge.
Chris Knight
aaces
8/3/2000 4:00 pm
Best bet 4 now is Inspiration 6. Does pretty well preserving GV format. Will send you how to do it, if interested.
The new PC Outline for Win has some problems, but I hope it get's fixed. Brown Bag sold* PC Outline & is involved with the new version. They lost a lawsuit with Symantec over GV.
*by "sold" I mean that they were the retailer, not that they sold it to another company.
The new PC Outline for Win has some problems, but I hope it get's fixed. Brown Bag sold* PC Outline & is involved with the new version. They lost a lawsuit with Symantec over GV.
*by "sold" I mean that they were the retailer, not that they sold it to another company.
jsmith
8/8/2000 7:18 am
I was a die-hard outline user (ThinkTank for Apple, ThinkTank for MSDOS, PC Outline, Grandview, and MaxThink) from the early 80's to the early 90's, but they then seemed to disappear when Windows took over. I agree that the Windows versions lack the functionality of the DOS-based outliners (i.e., they format the outline, and little else). I have tried Inspiration and VisiMap (British). Ecco had better outlining features than most Windows word processors, which isn't saying much.
Neil Larson told me several years ago that he was going to write a Windows version of MaxThink using Delphi, but it never materialized. I have emailed him several times to ask about its status, and he never responsed to my requests. Like you, I still rely on DOS-based outliners, but some don't get along with Windows AT ALL. If you hear of a decent program, please let us all know!
Jeffery Smith, Ph.D.
Dean of Academic Affairs
Delgado Community College
New Orleans, LA
Neil Larson told me several years ago that he was going to write a Windows version of MaxThink using Delphi, but it never materialized. I have emailed him several times to ask about its status, and he never responsed to my requests. Like you, I still rely on DOS-based outliners, but some don't get along with Windows AT ALL. If you hear of a decent program, please let us all know!
Jeffery Smith, Ph.D.
Dean of Academic Affairs
Delgado Community College
New Orleans, LA