UltraRecall Forum
Posted by daly_de_gagne
on 3/13/2005
daly_de_gagne
3/13/2005 9:11 am
I just took a look at the UltraRecall forum, and was struck by the fact that there's very few recent posts. A couple of months back there were new posts being added every day.
Does this mean that all the questions have been answered, and that people are happy with UR? Or does it mean that the bloom has faded from the rose?
I also took a look at the KnowledgeWorkshop newsgroups, and there's no messages at all showing up. This program has some of the features of UR, and a couple of neat ideas of its own -- but lacks the metadata power of UR, and is way overpriced. I suspect KW's developers are going after corporate and academic markets which may well buy the program if the decision makers aren't aware of the features and pricing of the competition.
Daly
Daly
Does this mean that all the questions have been answered, and that people are happy with UR? Or does it mean that the bloom has faded from the rose?
I also took a look at the KnowledgeWorkshop newsgroups, and there's no messages at all showing up. This program has some of the features of UR, and a couple of neat ideas of its own -- but lacks the metadata power of UR, and is way overpriced. I suspect KW's developers are going after corporate and academic markets which may well buy the program if the decision makers aren't aware of the features and pricing of the competition.
Daly
Daly
srdiamond15
3/13/2005 4:17 pm
In a way it is a good sign. If the program were bug-infested, there would be many complaints.
On the other hand, it reflects that UR is a hard program to be really excited about.It is a very competent program; it isn't an inspired one.And how excited can one get about _any_ multi-pane outliner. (I know you disagree, Daley.)
I have been looking at graphical outlining programs. They tend to be slicker than textual outliners (as well as more expensive). There are features that a two-pane textual outliner might emulate, since a graphical outliner is inevitably multi-pane (barring an unforeseen creative brainstorm by a graphical outliner developer).
But Visual Mind, imo the slickest of the graphical outliners (although the weakest in feature-count among the Big Three (MindManager, MindGenius, and Visual Mind). It has a simple but partly effective device to compensate for the split between topic and notes that having a multiple pane introduces.You enter the topic, and you enter text that goes with a topic, in a separate window that comes up automatically when you start typing a topic in the diagram.This could be easily and in my opinion fruitfully applied to textual outliners.
Stephen Diamond
On the other hand, it reflects that UR is a hard program to be really excited about.It is a very competent program; it isn't an inspired one.And how excited can one get about _any_ multi-pane outliner. (I know you disagree, Daley.)
I have been looking at graphical outlining programs. They tend to be slicker than textual outliners (as well as more expensive). There are features that a two-pane textual outliner might emulate, since a graphical outliner is inevitably multi-pane (barring an unforeseen creative brainstorm by a graphical outliner developer).
But Visual Mind, imo the slickest of the graphical outliners (although the weakest in feature-count among the Big Three (MindManager, MindGenius, and Visual Mind). It has a simple but partly effective device to compensate for the split between topic and notes that having a multiple pane introduces.You enter the topic, and you enter text that goes with a topic, in a separate window that comes up automatically when you start typing a topic in the diagram.This could be easily and in my opinion fruitfully applied to textual outliners.
Stephen Diamond
srdiamond15
3/13/2005 4:17 pm
In a way it is a good sign. If the program were bug-infested, there would be many complaints.
On the other hand, it reflects that UR is a hard program to be really excited about.It is a very competent program; it isn't an inspired one.And how excited can one get about _any_ multi-pane outliner. (I know you disagree, Daley.)
I have been looking at graphical outlining programs. They tend to be slicker than textual outliners (as well as more expensive). There are features that a two-pane textual outliner might emulate, since a graphical outliner is inevitably multi-pane (barring an unforeseen creative brainstorm by a graphical outliner developer).
But Visual Mind, imo the slickest of the graphical outliners (although the weakest in feature-count among the Big Three (MindManager, MindGenius, and Visual Mind). It has a simple but partly effective device to compensate for the split between topic and notes that having a multiple pane introduces.You enter the topic, and you enter text that goes with a topic, in a separate window that comes up automatically when you start typing a topic in the diagram.This could be easily and in my opinion fruitfully applied to textual outliners.
Stephen Diamond
On the other hand, it reflects that UR is a hard program to be really excited about.It is a very competent program; it isn't an inspired one.And how excited can one get about _any_ multi-pane outliner. (I know you disagree, Daley.)
I have been looking at graphical outlining programs. They tend to be slicker than textual outliners (as well as more expensive). There are features that a two-pane textual outliner might emulate, since a graphical outliner is inevitably multi-pane (barring an unforeseen creative brainstorm by a graphical outliner developer).
But Visual Mind, imo the slickest of the graphical outliners (although the weakest in feature-count among the Big Three (MindManager, MindGenius, and Visual Mind). It has a simple but partly effective device to compensate for the split between topic and notes that having a multiple pane introduces.You enter the topic, and you enter text that goes with a topic, in a separate window that comes up automatically when you start typing a topic in the diagram.This could be easily and in my opinion fruitfully applied to textual outliners.
Stephen Diamond
sub
3/15/2005 11:35 am
[Daly: I just took a look at the UltraRecall forum, and was struck by the fact that there's very few recent posts. A couple of months back there were new posts being added every day]
I have subscribed at the UR forum RSS feed and don't have the same impression at all. There are posts most days, both from new and more experienced users, mainly at the General Discussion / Suggestions themes.
I'm not sure about the developers' answer rate though; if that is low, it could be discouraging for people who have already posted.
alx
I have subscribed at the UR forum RSS feed and don't have the same impression at all. There are posts most days, both from new and more experienced users, mainly at the General Discussion / Suggestions themes.
I'm not sure about the developers' answer rate though; if that is low, it could be discouraging for people who have already posted.
alx