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Outliners.com Message ID: 2594

Posted by srdiamond15
2005-01-18 14:53:56

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I’d be interested in what unique idea you see crystallized in ADM. I’m willing to tolerate a lot in a program that is built around a unique idea that both suits the purpose at hand and whose philosophy I endorse. I think UR’s an excellent program and there’s a decent chance I’ll use it for the purpose I bought it, but I have trouble getting too excited about it, because it seems to lack much of a unique idea. It is a highly competent program that does just about everything it does right, and so far it has avoided multiplying features that don’t fit its framework, which is the minimal “unique idea” of expanding the clone concept to its logical end limit.

But what philosophy does ADM stand for? What unique idea guides its development? I have gone through these idea processors and tried to set out the “unique idea” of each, but I’ve been unable to come up with anything for ADM. To build an information manager around a powerful outlining functionality? That could have been its unique idea; I’d say _should_ have been. Then it would may outlining available in the text card, like Hog Bay NoteBook on the Mac, for what, around $29, if I recall. It surely would have by now allowed *some* undo functionality in the tree. Having put a powerful outliner in place, it seems to have abondoned further development of the outliner as such. Its goal seems to be to incorporate every data management function that’s fashionable in a single package, adding features at such a base that one wonders how the program will ever be debugged. I don’t consider the goal of building a powerful application for data management by adding features as fast as possible counts as a new idea. (Combining data management with outlining—if that’s the unique idea—is hardly unique. I guess it hasn’t been unique at least since GrandView.

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ADM, in my opinion, is an interesting concept, and it does have a unique approach. <Deletion>
I do feel that ADM works better as an outliner than a general information storage database, and I even appreciate their attempt to combine the two needs.

Chris

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