Re: UR Links

< Next Message | Back to archived message list | Previous Message >

Note: This message is from the outliners.com archive kindly provided by Dave Winer.

Outliners.com Message ID: 2578

Posted by chris
2005-01-17 16:29:41

Daly:
“Unlike UR, ADM does not restrict the kind of metadata that may be viewed—the user can define their own metadata, views, etc. to a far greater degree than any other program in the field.”

I’m not sure I am following what you mean when you say that UR restricts the kind of metadata that may be viewed. In fact, UR allows you to define your own metadata values on both a per-type and per-item basis. In my view, it goes beyond ADM metadata because you can actually build saved and boolean searches based on metadata attributes - and these searches can live in the overall hierarchy.

I also think “far greater degree than any other program in the field” is inaccurate. I personally think UR is ahead of ADM in this regard. And the power of Zoot’s metadata capabilities, including views, rules, and the ability to actually take *action* based on metadata, is still way beyond anything else out there. UR is Zootish in that you can mimic the rules and views of Zoot but it lacks the action component. UR also saves web items and clippings in a useful and consistent (and portable) format.

ADM, in my opinion, is an interesting concept, and it does have a unique approach. My main problem with ADM is that it is still buggy and I have lost data using it. It’s on version 3 and still buggy. UR is on version 1 and has not crashed once in the two months I have been using it continuously. At the end of the day, unique concepts only go so far and the bugs have to be worked out. An information management program needs to not lose the information stored in it.

I do feel that ADM works better as an outliner than a general information storage database, and I even appreciate their attempt to combine the two needs.

Like many other posters here, I try (and own) most of the information management software that exists. I like to try different approaches and support the developers who are trying to address these needs. But I also need something rock-solid and reliable for real daily work.

Back to archived message list