Re: MyInfo 3, Jot+, etc., and the vital need for calendars

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Posted by daly_de_gagne
2004-12-27 17:57:12

Stephen, I’ll reply to your post in a series of responses.

Having just spent some time playing around with Ultra Recall, I was not able to find a way to get a list of all items based on a particular template, eg. tasks. As well, I am at a loss to know how you would implement hierarchial keywords with UR. If it is indeed a feature of UR, it is well hidden. I think the UR help file could do with another revision with the objective of being made more clear for a beginning user who is not accustomed to figuring out a lot of stuff on their own.

With re to ADM’s flat keyword scheme, you write: “In encourages the use of a flat keyword scheme that is inferior to a function ADM already had, cloning within the outline.”

I think that ADM has indicated it plans to implement a hierarchial keywrods approach at some future point.

Nonetheless, by using a combination of metadata tags and keywords one can get pretty precise in terms of having ways to access and organize information.

Also, you seem to equate keywords and cloning, and I wonder if you could explain how they are similar and how they may differ. I would not think to use ADM cloning in the same way I use ADM keywords. To my mind, cloning and keywords have very different functions, so I don’t understand your meaning.

So far the most elegant—and just about the only—implementation of hierarchial keywords that I have seen is in MDE InfoHandler, which also has a writing capability and a calendar. While it does not have an outliner in the sense we normally think of it, it can display in tree form all of the groups and categories, and the titles of info items that go beneath each. While it may appear on the surface more complex than a program such as UR, InfoHandler is actually fairly easy to learn and to start using at once.

Daly

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